Typing e-mail addresses

Braille on Apple Products

OK guys. Got kind of a weird one for ya'll.

So, here's the deal. I have a Braille Sense device from Hims which I've pared via bluetooth to my iPhone 11 Pro Max running iOS 13.3.

Normally, I use 6 dot braille input, and the US english table found in Voiceover settings/braille under the system heading, not the Loui heading. Maybe that's part of my issue? I'm sorry, but I do not know U E B unified braille, and telling me, then learn it is totally uncall for, so don't even go there, please I beg you with the love of god! Anyway, given this setup, again, 6 dot contracted braille, US English braille table, how in the world do you type an at symbol, or the dot like in an e-mail address? I thought you hit dot 7 and dot 4 together, but undoubtedly not. I thought for sure that used to work, but, yeah... I did a low h cord, dots 2 3 6 and the spacebar, and switched the input over to 8 dot uncontracted, and I also did the same with 6 dot, but that's not working. Regardless, I can't just do dot 4, as that is seeming to put a diacrytic on a letter, like making an A acute, or sometimes I've heard it say y dieresis. A friend told me, do a dot 4, then space, then do a dot 7 to backspace out the space. That isn't working though. I know in UEB, I could do dot 4 then dot 1, hence, dot 4 A in other words, but again, I'm really not wanting to do this with UEB. I'd rather use 8 dot uncontracted computer braille, or I'd rather use 6 dot uncontracted computer braille. One of the two, but definitely not unified. Also, for the dot, dot 4 6 isn't working as I remember it doing.

What in the tarnation am I possibly doing wrong? I included the device I'm using, the Braille Sense, but I really wouldn't truely think that would matter as long as you have an 8 dot braille keyboard. I know this as a friend of mine has a Vario and is having exactly the same problem. So, I don't think it's display/notetaker specific. I think it's more just in knowing how to type those characters in general.



Submitted by Serena on Wednesday, December 18, 2019

hey, just did a bit of testing, what of it i could do. couldn't figure out how 6 dot entry does it, but in 8 dot entry, the @ sign is the backspace and dot 4. having some real problems with my new polaris mini on ios, but i did manage to confirm that.

Submitted by Brian Tew on Wednesday, December 18, 2019

@ @ @ doing this in six dot mode.

try this:
press chord-u for upper case
then press dot four
then press space or chord e

works for me_

Maybe you dont need the space or chord-e at the end.
Eight-dot entry is way easier for me, so I normally use that.
You know chord-k enters help mode on apple devices, and that mode will read back what is typed on the screen.
thats how I tested the chord-u-then-dot-4 at sign.
press chord-b to exit help mode.

Also I have learned from extensive experimentation that apple devices respond best to polish curse words.

good luck_

Submitted by Chris Gilland on Wednesday, December 18, 2019

I don't have even the slighted explaination, but I got up this morning, tried again to do the at symbol, and it didn't work. However, I reset the Braille Sense for may I add, about the 10th time, LOL, and the darn thing finally decided afterward to start working correctly. It appears that I wasn't doing anything wrong to start with. It is indeed dots 7 4 together while in 8 dot input mode, so WTH was going on is beyond me. Normally, resetting things fixes the problem, but in this particular case, that didn't exactly altogether seem to work the first few times I did so. I guess all I can really say here is: live and learn... if something fudges up on you, give it a kick in the... uh... never mind, until it realizes it's to bow down and kiss your butt. LOL! Just kidding. But in all seriousness, I can't explain this one. It remains a mystory to me.

Now, here's something really messed up on another note related to braille. As I'm sitting here typing this, my Braille Sence has come disconnected then reccnected about 5 times. It seems to be mainly happening whenever I start typing extremely fast. I usually type in hardware braille input at around 100 to 120 words per minute. I fly on this thing. I don't know if that's playing a factor here or not, but it would be interesting to see if anyone else has seeen that behavior.

Anyway guys, thanks for the help with this along the way.

Submitted by Brian Tew on Wednesday, December 18, 2019

Yes my u2 and ipad sometimes do that, but the devices will not let me input faster than a tranquilized snail.
If I input faster than about two characters per second it skips letters and merges letters together.
What apple device are you using, Chris? Device and model, please.
this is an ipad mini four.

Submitted by Chris Gilland on Wednesday, December 18, 2019

So, I'm using an iPhone 11 Pro Max midnight green 256GB AT&T IMEI locked for the time being, and an 18 cell Braille Sense On Hand. I don't want to veer too far from the original topic, so perhaps we should start a new thread if this gets too far off from the e-mail typing issue, but very briefly I'll say this. I've not done much yet in iOS13 with braille input, however what I've observed more than what's described here is I'll be typing along, regardless fast or slow, and all of a sudden out of nowhere totally at random, the display will disconnect from bluetooth for about 2 seconds, then reconnect. For this reason, I'm typing while it disconnects, and things get totally mangled making me have to backspace, then re-track my footsteps.