So with the developer beta of iOS 18 now out, I thought I would start this topic yet again, to create, one, centralized place to discuss bugs and accessibility issues with iOS 18.
I would encourage those who are able to test on their devices to try and recreate issues reported here, to report issues of their own, as well as to file reports about issues they're able to reproduce to supplement the reports of others in the community.
With that said, I will post an issue I've located in the comment below and we'll go from there.
By Gar, 10 June, 2024
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Can't swipe to notifications from the activity ring widget
FB13822529 (Voiceover can't properly swipe to notifications within the notification centre from the activity ring widget)
When swiping right in the notification centre from the activity widget, I am unable to get to my list of notifications. Meanwhile, if I swipe left from the first notification in the list, I'm able to get to the widget without issue. My notification centre displays the time at the top, and the activity ring below it. To reproduce, enable voiceover, then swipe down from the top of the screen to the notification centre. Tap the time, and swipe right. You will move to the activity ring. From there, swipe right again. While voiceover should move without issue to the first notification in the list, it makes the bong sound indicating it can't go any further.
There's no back button in the voice selection screen
FB13822914 (The back button is not recognized by voiceover when one is in the primary voice selection screen)
TL:DR: When navigating through the list of voiceover voices in settings, voiceover fails to see the back button to return to the previous screen. With voiceover enabled: Step 1: Open the settings app. Step 2: Navigate to voiceover>voices>select primary voice. Step 3: Touch the top left corner to bring voiceover focus to where the back button should be. Expected result: Voiceover should identify the back button and speak it out as such. Actual result: Voiceover only identifies and reads the header at the top of the screen. Swiping left or right, and using a four finger single tap at the botton of the screen and swiping left, fails to locate the back button.
Re: Back button
I realize this is not a solution necessarily, but what about the scrub gesture? Does that at least work here?
Re: Back Button
Brian,
The scrub gesture does work in this scenario, fortunately.
seeing AI no longer works after updating to iOS 18
Just a heads up, the microsoft Seeing-AI app no longer automatically detects text after updating to iOS 18, I've restored the phone, reinstalled the app and no luck. The light meter works so it obviously still has camera app permissions but some bug has been introduced.
Probly seeing AI needs to update there app
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Can't enter passcode with quick nav on
I use my iPad with a Bluetooth keyboard. Rather than pick up the iPad to unlock with face ID, I normally just enter the passcode via the keyboard. The bug is that you must disable quick nav first. Never had to do that with iPadOS 17.
I have not submitted this to Apple yet. Too busy with everything going on today.
The option to custemize the home screen in iPadOS 18 doesnt work
I tried with voiceover and zoomed in with out voiceover and boath dont work, tapping it just takes you out of edit mode
Havent had a chance to report this yet
Homescreen Customization
Yeah... I couldn't figure that one out either. How is it supposed to work? Are you supposed to just be able to drag the icon to any row/collun on the screen, whereas before it had to either go in a folder, or snap right to the direct right of the last icon, unless of corse the column was full, at which point it would force to the far left of the next row underneath?
Vision and Homescreen
Note by the way: I, too, have enough vision to see and manually drag the icons around. Granted, it's a pain in the posterior to do, but I can if I must, but even still, I can't get it to work without Voiceover either.
Love the new voiceover tutorial
I do love the new voiceover tutorial I think Apple needed to introduce this a while back but good on them for introducing the tutorial now.
Volume buttons
Everytime I click a volume button a black overlay pops out until i release
Overlay
Maybe I'm confused, but I thought it was supposed to bring up some sort of a visual on the screen showing what the volume was doing. Hasn't it always done that? I apologize if I'm misunderstanding.
Hear we go again
Vo stops speaking randomly
A possible bug
Wondering if this is a bug or not.
So Whenever I try to change the roter language or as it is called voices as soon as I change it it defaults back to the actions roter.
This is particularly happening on the home screen.
Is this normal behaviour or is this a bug?
Normal behavior
This is normal but you can turn it off if you dont like it
Vo settings>roter>change roter with item
Re: Homescreen Customization
I was able to get this to work no problem. All I had to do was double tap and hold on an app icon. I was placed into edit mode and as I drag my finger around the screen, voiceover announces the row/column I'm in. This allows me to drop an icon anywhere, which I did by placing the Developer app in the last row/column available. Exploring by touch, I was able to confirm the app went where I wanted to.
Re: A possible bug
I haven't experienced this, even if I don't move focus to another item.
Voiceover randomly going quiet
You know, I also saw that bug where Voiceover would just all of a sudden quit working. Not sure if this is an Eloquence thing, or if the other user is using another voice than that, but yeah, I thought maybe my phone was just doing something weird, but I guess not after all if you can reproduce it. I had to actually tripple click my side button to turn Voiceover off, then back on to get it back. Not really per sé a dealbreaker, but definitely really annoying.
voices
what new voices are available, and are there bugs with them? i assume they are Ai voices?
Not aware of any new voices.
They said under the what's new section, that I think it was lithuanian that was now supported? Don't quote me on this. I don't have it up in front of me. I dono if that's just for braille, or a new voice as well. But that's all I'm aware of.
Extremely irritating focus issue
So, while this is still not a dealbreaker for me, it's definitely incredibly annoying at best!
I have reported this through the Feedback app, but here's the deal.
So, let's say you're on a screen, and maybe you're focused on an item, oh, I dunno, 40 or 50 items scrolled down, so needless to say, quite a ways down the page/screen. Now, you double tap on that item. You then find that it wasn't after all where you wanted to go. So, you either hit the back button, or you do the 2 finger scrub motion to go back a screen, either/or.
Voiceover is consistently 100 percent of the time with no exception jumping me all the damn way back to the very top of the blasted screen rather than doing like before by remembering my last focused item, and returning my focus to it instead. I therefore lose my place, and if I'm again say, 50 items down the screen, you can only imagine how annoying this would be! If you can, then try it, and you'll find out otherwise real? fast! Trust me!
If yall also can reproduce this, would you do me a favor and also report it on your ends?
Thanks.
unable to edit items in control centre/add controls to lockscree
I've noticed a bug where you can't always edit shortcuts, an example I'd provide you with is when editing the shortcuts at the bottom of the lock screen, ie torch/camera, I tried to swap it out for something else, voiceover reads all of the options, with about 85% focus accuracy before jumping a little bit. But when you attempt to add an option, voiceover will respond to the double tap, it just stays in that menu still presenting the same options as before.
Control center
With the control center try long pressing the thing you want to add, this works for me on my iPad
Tried it yesterday
Tried that on the phone yesterday. I'll give it a shot on the iPad in a little while and report back later, I'll also try it on the phone as well, you know beta software, its very on and off.
Swyping Control Center?
I wonder how this new things works where apparently the control center is supposed to have things like your Smarthome items in one category, your connectivity in another, etcetera, and supposedly, if I understood correctly, you're supposed to be able to then swype somehow to move between the different category groups. If I flick though with 3 fingers or even just double tap and hold then slide my finger left or right, nothing really seems to be happening aside such jiggling the control center a little back and forth, but of corse when letting go of the screen with your finger, the screen boings itself back in to place without really doing much of anything.
Strange bluetooth issue: Bug? To be determined.
So, I dunno if this is a Pocketcast thing, or if this is something kuhscrewidy with iOS 18, but just a bit ago when listening to a podcast in Pocketcast with my bluetooth headset, which BTW, are not Airpods, they're actually really high end Sonies, but anyway, when I hit the volume up or down buttons on the headset itself, I found that while it worked, if I got to fast/vigarous with the buttons, the podcast would just all of a sudden pause itself. The headset didn't disconnect. That much was fine. It just paused. Totally wicked strange! It doesn't seem to be doing this if no headset is connected, nor does it seem to be doing it when connected if I use the actual volume buttons on the phone itself. So yeah, it's kind of odd. Just thought I'd throw it out there though.
Re: Voiceover Randomly Going Quiet
I'm having this issue with Alex. I'm also experiencing clipped speech with Alex, similar to what happened with Eloquence last year. I haven't reported this as it seems to be working fine for now, and I'm trying to see if I can figure out what actually causes the issue.
1 cause of silent speech
I've noticed that when typing quite fast with BSI, VO can suddenly go silent and give up with any speech or typing feedback at all, sometimes it says random things, sometimes nothing. As soon as you move VO out of the text field, it seems fine again, but you do need to restart VO to get feedback in a text field when typing again.
The lock screen audio track swiping bug is still present.
This is a bug which has been present since iOS 16, so I didn’t have much hope that it would be fixed, and it isn’t.
When on the lock screen, while playing an audio file, if you swipe up with one finger on the track slider, you can only move forward or back a couple of seconds rather than a percentage of the file as you could iOS 15.
This was particularly useful for longer audio files. You could easily swipe to where you needed to be and much more accurate than the double tap, Holden drag method and it was confirmed by Apple that it is a bug.
In my case
In my case, it doesn't have to be in a text field nor with BSI. It seems to just randomly do it on my end regardless. Mind you, this is on the 13 Pro Max. I did put the beta on my 15 Pro Max for a bit, maybe for an hour or so, but once I saw that the AI features weren't available yet even over there, I went into DFU, and rolled back, and as for my other post, no. It didn't delete my Esim, thank God.
voiceover stopping speaking
This has been reported. If you expect no bugs in a beta you will be terribly disappointed.
When did we ever say?
Dennis, sorry if I misunderstand the tone of your post, but we never said we expected it to be bug free; in fact, quite the oppisit.
I'm putting that out there for those new to beta testing
It was put out there for those that are new to it or have never tested before. I expect the voice over crashing to be fixed sooner then later I hope.
Can't use SIRI with a closed case
I keep my iPad in a case with the lid closed, and use it 100% with a Bluetooth keyboard and VoiceOver playing on the speakers. I would think this would not be out of the ordinary for most blind users.
SIRI doesn't respond when the case is closed. Neither "Hey SIRI" nor holding down the sleep wake switch. This worked fine in iPad OS 17.
Unable to enter passcode when VoiceOver quick nav is enabled
FB13841620, iOS and iPad OS.
SIRI unresponsive when case is closed
FB13842009 — iOS & iPadOS
@Ipadman
Thanks for re bringing this. This is why I still keep my ipod touch 7 with me on ios 15.
Re: Unable to Enter Passcode with Quicknav On
With an iPhone 15 Pro, using an external keyboard I have had no problems with this. I'm able to enter my passcode on the keyboard regardless of if quicknav is on or off.
I just wondering...
I am afraid to get the first beta. because I just have 1 IPhone...
but, just want to know that.
does it have any new voices or features for voice over?
putting beta on your primary device
I do this every year. That being said I do have a lot of beta testing experience. I was an alpha tester for the old Talks for symbian phones. AKA the Nokia phones. If you are going to put it on your main device expect bugs and be willing to deal with them. If I were you I would wait til beta 2 or beta 3. Like I said I do it to catch and report bugs as quick as possible to help all users. Hope this helps.
Can't edit text with VoiceOver on
I installed ios 18 the first beta and I can't open Text Field with dubble tap on that.
Even when Braille Display connected.
Can't edit text with VoiceOver on
Not enough information given.
1 what model of phone?
2 what model of display?
3 Where specifically is this happening?
Example:
In the messages I attempt to tap on the edit box and nothing happens.
I am not able to reproduce this just based on the limited info I have. I'm using an orbit writer which shows as an orbit 20.
Voices: Can a beta tester check something?
Hello,
A question for the beta users of iOS 18. Is it possible to check what Belgian dutch voices are available and can also give the size of the installation files in MB?
Thanks!
Beta
All people who do videos about iOS in youtube always tell people that do not install the beta in a main device. You do it at your own risk. I will wait for it to be beta 3 or 4. Appreciate those who do beta testing for doing so. Nice job.
Re: Dutch Voices
Hi,
The only two voices available for that region are Ellen and Ellen enhanced (49.3 MB)
Regarding siri not working…
Regarding siri not working with screen locked, it might be worth toggling the feature off in siri settings, restarting, and then turning it back on. Sometimes there's a tangle in the upgrade path with permissions.
I've not got any pressing travel arrangements over the next week so going to put it on my iPhone 15 pro. I've taken a backup and will revert before I head up country next Wednesday.
Thanks for this list of bugs so far. An aside, I was already having issues with voiceover stopping speaking on IOS 17.5.1 so I think it's more likely a continuing bug rather than a new one. That's with Alex though did seem to be related to using BSI, so we'll have to see.
On iPad it's all running pretty flawlessly so far. There are a few design decisions that might need work, the ability to assign voiceover controls to the BSI command input, but voice is stable, apps are running fine. I'm actually quite impressed. Some years it's been unusable. Obviously a lot of work put into accessibility this year on IOS... shame mac is still a dump fire.
Passcode
Interesting that you don't see the issue with the iPhone 15 Pro, but I have it with the iPad Pro 3rd gen. Well, Apple has my sysdiagnose, so they can sort it out.
SIRI
Ollie, whether the device is locked or not is irrelevant. SIRI doesn't respond when my iPad case is closed. Toggling the setting for "always listen for SIRI" has no effect, and I noted that in the Feedback report.
Are you sure it responded…
Are you sure it responded before? I know if I lie my iPhone face down it doesn't respond by design, I wonder if the closed case is the same deal. I've got a few apple devices and it's kinda annoying when they all kick off. I think the assumption is that if the case is closed you're not using the device., and the always listening only works when the case is open or the screen is on.