We can post any finding here. We also have proper release notes in the software update screen this time.
By TheBlindGuy07, 29 March, 2025
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I don't think it's RC
They took "Release Candidate" out of the title. Barring a major show stopper, I think this is exactly what the public will get sometime next week.
Yes previous wasn't this is…
Yes previous wasn't this is just 18.4 for example so the real rc, so devs won't get any update next week.
Installing
I'm installing it now.
looks good
Looks good. I agree I suspect it will be released Tuesday. Mac rumors agrees with me :)
Fine, with AI Off
I've already checked all the possible settings parameters for iOS 18.4 on account of this being used on my production phone now, which means I'm ready to rock when it's officially released.
However, I still maintain that Apple Intelligence is a total waste of time and effort, except possibly Safari reader view summaries. Those are nice, if not essential. I would have been all right with Mail thread summaries, except of course for the stupid damage Apple inflicted in iOS 18.4 in the Mail app with AI on. I can't wait until people start running into that; I can promise you they won't be best pleased! It's still there, far as I can tell.
Just think, about six months…
Just think, about six months ago a whole bunch of people around the world went out and bought themselves the latest iPhone model, just for a chance at Apple Intelligence, only to spend the next six months trying to figure out ways to disable its features. 🙄
Clearly Not Baked
However, if I'm being honest I think the biggest problem, notwithstanding that it's not very bright obviously, is the latency and added compute burden it adds, for not that much extra benefit. This is one of those things where, eventually, everyone will have it and it won't be a problem because the hw will eventually catch up and nobody will mind. Until then, I'm just glad there is still a master switch to turn it off and even delete the downloaded model data. In future I suspect Apple will just remove that switch entirely and the UI will just blithely assume AI is always available. Not sure I'm looking forward to that, at least until Apple adds individual controls to each subsystem (like Siri) that uses the feature. It can only get more integrated over time, and, after all, I am using the earliest iPhone that supports it (15 Pro).
Re: Just think, about six months…
Yes, that was me, but with the M4 Mac Mini, not the iPhone. I've kept AI functionality enabled on the iPhone, except for email categorization.
Brian
Yes, need to consult with my lawyer. False advertisement by Apple, from what I heard they did not even had it. It was just talk. Reagan was right. Trust but verify.How many millions should I get? Need to pay my mortgage.
@Holger
Ha! If it were that easy, we would all be filthy rich.
The bug with the horrible…
The bug with the horrible lack of precision with the 3 fingers gestures on the trackpad for scrolling on the mac has been acknowledged I saw it just today <10 similar reports so at least that's an update. FB16111381. I last reported on it on January 20th as of 15.3 beta 3. Will see if it got any improvements on 15.4 RC 2.
I would think it is being looked at
I would think that means it is being worked on. Just keep reporting it.
Have you guys tryed the movie memories feature?
Hi, Have you guys tryed the movie memories feature? if yes, is it accessible to creat using VoiceOver?
Two small problems
Problem #1: When reading a notification or text message on the locked screen with Voiceover, the phone will sometimes shut down before the complete message is spoken.
I don't know when I first noticed this in the 18.4 betas but don't think I ever experienced this problem with prior versions of iOS. I did finally report it today because it is annoying. If the complete messsage isn't read before the phone hsuts off then one has to unlock the phone before reading the message and this takes time and is inefficient.
Problem #2: I have complained to Apple Accessibility several times in the past that when closing a news article in the News app using Voiceover, focus is not returned to the title of the news article that I was just reading. Thus if one is reading articles in sequence, one always lost their place.
Interestingly, in iOS 18.4 this behavior mostly seems to be fixed. When I close an article, Voiceover speaks the title of the article I just closed and focus is on that article in the list of articles.
The problem is, however, that if I open an article to read from within one of my "Favorites" categories on the Today tab and then close it, focus does not usually return to that article. Sometimes focus jumps to the "Bakc" button and sometimes someplace else. Occasionally focus jumps to the article just closed, but not usually. So they seemed to have fixed this behavior in the list of articles in the Today tab, but not when in the list of articles in any sub section like Favorites.
--Pete
Thanks god they've fixed the…
Thanks god they've fixed the horrible icloud mail notification bug with this update on ios.
Notification
Regarding it closing before VO reads it, it always had been there. Now is more consistent. It happens more than before. Also Siri stop working, needed to restart phone. Nuts.
Holger
Would you like a saltine?
On a sidenote, I'm glad they're finally getting around to giving the News application some love.
Brian
No. Just apple to follow through with what they promise. I am paying for 16 pro max and want apple to do what they said. If in my worked as a social worker promised something and did not do it, I would be looking for a job. That was when I was working. PS A nice cold Screw driver be nice.
Promises
At this point I think I would just like to see bugs get squashed, forget about any new features.
I'll call your screwdriver, and raise you one cherry 7-Up with a shot of vodka in it. 😉🥃
fixing bugs
I agree with the poster who expressed the opinion that Apple needs to focus on squashing bugs before adding even more bells and whistles to iOS. For the most part, I don't have any serious issues with my phone, but there are a ton of weird little quirks that I've just learned how to live with. I know it won't happen, but I wish they'd focus exclusively on fixing bugs and general iOS stabilization for iOS 19. The huge redesign should happen with iOS 20. That just makes ever-so-much more sense in my little mind.
Even more so for macos and…
Even more so for macos and especially Voiceover. But we can't change that, we can only keep reporting, and most importantly, share our findings publically so other users are aware.
Brian
Ask Apple to call ORKA. They do a good job of killing bugs. I want a Coke and Rum. No ice. At lease with the new way the iOS would look, apple had already delt with the bugs in the system with their visual pro. Hope VO works with it well, Not to many blind people own a visual pro so we do not know about bugs with VO.
Vision
Vision
TheBlindGuy07
Yes.