VoiceOver now reads all the action buttons that are next to videos on the YouTube app

By Unregistered User (not verified), 6 March, 2024

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Hi
Just letting everyone know that after the latest YouTube update, voiceover will not be able to access the action menus with the rotor item, the action buttons are next to the videos, and next to the notifications in the notification section, double tapping on these action buttons will bring up the same menu, that the actions in the rotor did, for me, I don’t really care because this is exactly how it’s laid out on android so it’s easier for me because I don’t have to think about it as much

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I've already written to google help.

I definetly prefer the older way of doing things, it means you don't have to swipe as much.

Nice

Youtube app accessibility…

Youtube app accessibility has gone downhill the last couple of months. Search results and related videos are also segmented into at least 3 focusable elements each, when their previous way was just so much more efficient to navigate. I wrote Google support about this as well, and got a vague response back, so we'll see if they'll revert down the line. I'm considering just uninstalling the app and reverting to using it in-browser, as navigating by headings is way more efficient.

what a shock Google makes it less accessible

The other way was much more efficient what a shock Google broke something.

What is accessibility anyhow?

Do we want the same experience and layout as our sighted peers or special accommodations just for us? There isn't one universally right answer, they both have their drawbacks.

they don't.

The bblind way of doing things before this update was to find a video, then you'd be able to flick down through actions and tap on what you want, this decluttered the screen and made it much faster.

Sighted peoples brains, as far as I know, can actually block out all the clutter on a webpage/app so they'd probably not see those buttons next to each video, if that's how it's laid out for them, and if they do, their brain will just ignore it or view it as something that isn't important.

Those buttons are important though

And I think sighted people also like going to a video's channel etc. I get this way is ever so slightly slower, though at least for me on android navigating youtube by containers is about the same experience I had with voiceover. Where this difference in accessibility philosophy really matters is following a tutorial made for sighted users, having a tech support rep walk you through something (or being the tech support rep walking someone through something!), it's good to know exactly how the app is laid out for sighted users in those situations. You can have slightly more efficiency or slightly more accuracy, not both.

You can still get to them.

You just swipe down a couple times, and double tap, it's much quicker. I'm not worried about a sighted person guiding me through youtube because I doubt i'll ever have that experience and if I did, it would be with a person at google who would know this stuff, well, up to a point.

Oh and doing it this way is both acurat and efficient in the fact it works.

Sighted people can see tonnes of things at once, we can't and have to go step by step so if there's ever an easier way for me to do something, I'm taking it.

I did not understand the purpose of this post

Sorry guys looks like I did not understand the topic of discussion. I am reporting many issues with the Youtube application on my device. To do with the notifications, home screen and being able to quickly comment. Google accessibility only acknowledges the issues, asks you for detailed reports and screen recording and that is the end of the support.

I work flexible shifts to pay my bills and I really do not have the patience anymore to deal with following up. Seriously, people have things to do, when we are reporting something it means we are actually taking some time to send them feedback for something that was working before and is now broken. Support teams need to respect that...

It's Simple Really

Google is doing this to make it universal.

Unless Rotor actions are used on Android more with Google's native apps which most are not (See https://accessibleandroid.com/accessible-android-investigates-do-google-apps-for-android-have-accessibility-actions/ for what I mean by that), ...

Yeah, these YT IOS changes for y'all are Intentional.

Meta with all of their apps too act the same way as YouTube on Android with their layout.

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