Limited hand/wrist dexterity, need alternative to VoiceOver rotor on iPad

Hello,
I work with a woman who wants to use the voice over rotor on her ipad, but has limited ability to do the required gestures (twisting at wrist, holding fingers in position). Has anyone used switches instead in order to use ipads, or had success with other, hands-free ways of accessing voice over? Thanks for the support!

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#1 Could she use a bluetooth keyboard?

She'd have to use two of her fingers to press the up and right arrows together to use the roter settings. If she can do that then a bluetooth keyboard would be a great tool for her.

#2 Don't know if this would work.

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Hello. I do not have an iPad, so have no idea if this would work. Could she try placing one finger on the screen, and then with the other hand, do a diagonal flick? Again, I don't know her abilities, obviously, but guess this might work.

#3 Thanks for your reply. She

Thanks for your reply. She recently purchased a bluetooth keyboard and is learning how to use it, so I agree that is a great option. However, she would like to find a way to use voice over rotor controls without it, as she finds the keyboard cumbersome to carry around all the time. Thanks, and let me know if anything else comes to mind!

#4 Yeah, that was an option, but

Yeah, that was an option, but unfortunately she has almost no functional use of her other hand, so must use only the iPad one-handed (left hand). I wonder if there is a stylus that could create that motion though? Thanks for response, and let me know any other ideas that come to mind.

#5 Just a thought

I'm pretty sure there is a setting in accessibility that you can set up a custom gesture and maybe change a gesture for voice over. Perhaps, if the rotor gesture can be changed, you all could come up with a workable gesture to replace it. Sorry I can't remember what that feature is called, I'll have to Google it some more.
Edit: It's called Assistive Touch in the settings, however I am not sure from what I read that you can change the Voiceover gestures with the custom gesture setting.

#6 thought of assistive touch

Yes, i was thinking assistive touch but wasn't sure if you can change voiceOver gestures that have been built in.

#7 I tried fooling with it

I turned it on, it puts a menu button at the bottom right of the screen, and I didn't find anything that changed Voiceover settings. I wish it did because I don't like the gesture.
I don't understand how it works, and I'm afraid to fool with it too much. LOL

#8 How to add VoiceOver Gestures

i did this with sighted help as i wasnt sure how to add a custom gesture while voiceover was active.

In the accessibility menu, turn on assistive touch. You will see other options beloe the on button. Tap add custom gesture. In the space provided , make the rotor gesture with your fingers. Tap stop. Tap save. Name it VO Rotor. Now turn on voiceover. Like crockerbear said, theres a menu bottom right of the screen. Find ut and double tsp. The menu opens. Find and double tap custom. Find and double tap vo rotor. Nowtap once anywhere on the screen. This will activate the rotor. Continuing to tap will cycle through rotor options until you make a different gesture.

Now im going to sleep.
Greetings from the Netherlands

#9 Thanks Maanling

Oh, it does the gesture for you and you select it from the menu! I thought it changed the gesture, but that's even better for someone with limited hand movement. That sounds like exactly what is needed.

#10 No thanks needed

You are welcome.

Yes. I have a little sight so I could see what was happening on the screen. Almost like 2 virtual vingers are indeed doing the gesture for you.

This means the whole operation of the phone can be accessed this way. Even the physical buttons for locking the screen, pushing the home button, adjusting volume, taking a screenshot and activating Siri.

In accessibility options is also something called switch control. This allows you to add a bluetooth switch like the Blue2 (yes, i did research) and control your phone that way.

You can even set up the FaceTime camera to allow you to control it with your head.

Greetings from the Netherlands.