I'm done with Safari on MacOS

I noticed a while ago that on applevis, in the comment headings for example VO would say level 2 only on chrome. For whatever reason it's linked with the verbosity setting of status for the link item, turning this off remove this announcement b but then you are also unable to know if a link is visited or not. I still don't know what type is for.
My guess is that on chrome when there is a link in a heading, it would mark this content as in another content, thus level 2. Could be related to the annoying bug of VO only reading heading 3 3 items instead of reading those like it was doing before.

I read your comment above and launched Chrome and went to About. When I moved around I was hearing Clickable but it updated and I relaunched... and now... so far, no clickables. I will be very, very happy if that has been fixed. I think Chrome is always updating in the background, so I suspect that is what happened to you.

Yeah so my guess was right it was a, chromium issue.

It is resolved after the update here as well.

Steven from Double Tap acquired a mac studio with 96 gb of ram and m3 ultra and he told that the first time he opened safari he got safari is not responding message. So as suspected by many this is purely a very, very longstanding software issue.

That's just sad... 😬

I still use this combination, with Safari as my default with loads of content blocking and default-on-reader on iOS, and Chrome for when I need web apps that actually work. I think this is the best balance one can achieve as things stand. I haven't (yet) found much use for Firefox, sadly (there's more potential in Thunderbird though).

Not that there's a lot of text there to read, just gibberish about their AI. But I didn't get clickable anything. At the top where they talk about organizing things and whatever there were pauses between the words, but I assume that's some sort of weird formatting on their part, I don't care enough to dig into it. The rest seems to be links. But I did VO right and left, caps lock if it matters, and I didn't get a report that anything is clickable.

I don't know why Firefox isn't a contender. I've used almost nothing else since switching and in 99% of the cases, it's fine. Where it wasn't I don't think Safari was any better. I used Firefox on Windows so I just tried it here, since it's available, which gave me access to all of my bookmarks and what have you, thanks to having a Firefox account set up.

I'm not saying I don't run into weirdness, e.g. sometimes some pages will be reading fine and then it kicks me out of them and back to the level where you have to interact with the web content group. But I just had the exact same thing happen to me with Thorium Reader, and that seems to be using some sort of web framework. So I'm not sure that's something you can blame on Firefox. But like I said, for the most part, it works fine.

I have no idea what the potential open source issue is that somebody else mentioned. I tend not to follow that stuff because it tends to be people getting upset about some sort of privacy concern or corporate behavior or whatever, and insisting that we never use thing X ever again,and then you find out that every replacement for thing X does the same thing or worse. So I'm supposed to be all upset but really there's no real way to solve most of it. So I just ignore it.

I get clickable everywhere. For example, go to this page, jump to the first heading and vo+right through paul's original post. After every sentence, Firefox helpfully tells me "clickable". This is also after updating to the latest version.

It seems like Firefox is not getting along with Apple all over the place. Not only does it seem to be having issues on Mac, at least with some folks, it also is having issues on iOS, as the reader mode is no longer accessible with VoiceOver.

OTOH, I have to wait until the end of whatever text to get it. Either I use VO-a a lot more than you do or I just arrow faster, because until you pointed it out and I explicitly checked for it, I had no idea it was happening. Weird!