Since I installed macOS Sierra on my stock MacBook Pro mid 2012, with 4 GB ram and 500 GB 5400 RPM HD, things seems to be a lot quicker than they use to. I'm almost scared to upgrade my MacBook Pro, even though I have already bought all the parts. I suspect that 16 GB of RAM and 240 GB SSD Will mosey along quite a bit quicker than I am use to.
I suspect, no more hitting the power button, going to the kitchen, making a cup of coffee and taking it back before my Mac is ready. Even now, I have to hurry.
Hi all. I understand about backups, but I have never had an os completely wipe everything, acting as though you just bought it. I'm still having a few issues in safari, like when reading a long block of text, say a story, it seems to pause, busy, then start, but I've missed something. I had to reinstall flash, not a huge deal, but i lost a few apps I already had. again redownloading them, but that's weird, because when I looked for nightowl, it says open, not download, so I know i had it, but I didn't see it in my apps folder. Next Mac I'm getting will most definitely have a solid state. I could upgrade this, it's the last mac with a slot load dvd cd drive in it. I think I have eight gigs. If anyone knows how to get safari to read better let me know. thanks.
When I bought this MacBook Pro it was running lion, very well I might add. Mountain lion was ok still, a bit slower than lion. Mavericks was getting tedious, but the worst was still to come. The machine was almost on usable by the time we got to Yosemite, El Capitan was completely unusable. For about a year I did not use the Mac at all, I stuck to the iPad.
Now, oh, what can I say! The Mac is working in Full swing! Joyous times.
Commenting on what Siobhan had to say, I have never seen what you are describing, and I have dealt with many a Mac over the last 4 or so years. I have seen hard drives die in spectacular ways, smoke and all, I have seen Macs refuse to boot and everything in between, but not what you are describing. Not to say I do not believe you, for I do. My only advice? Do as most all techies recommend and made backups of your back ups, format your HD and start over. You should do that every year anyway at a minimum, I personally believe in doing it every 6 months.
My upgrade didn't wipe anything whatsoever. I could have, however that requires a very specific set of setps.
What you might be seeing is the setup assistant. It's normal for that to come up and ask you to sign into iCloud again, and to ask a few questions. This doesn't usually mean everything is wiped however.
To wipe everything, it is necessary to use the recovery partition or recovery media, and deliberately wipe the disk. For a typical upgrade, this isn't even possible as the disk running the upgrade is the same one on which you are loading the new os. Any attempt to wipe the disk during the upgrade would, by implication, wipe the very upgrade files it needs to complete said upgrade.
This is good to know. It's snappy on my personal machine, but it's a mid 2015 Air with 8 gigs of ram and an SSD. We have a few 2012 MBP's at work that have the specs you have, and anything to make those snappy would be welcome.
At the moment I still have the stock MacBook pro, but that will not be the case for much longer. As I said in an earlier post, I am putting 16 GB of ram and a 240 GB SSD in there over the weekend. Can't wait to see the difference.
I understand what you mean, but I promise, itwiped everything. Apps like Nightowl, skype, clean my mac, all need to redownload. again not a huge problem, I've just never seen that happen. Safari is still a little strange, like when I go into form controls, I should see the subject and edit fields for this comment. Instad, I just see "Text format" and save. I don't know if i screwed up a setting somewhere. Thanks though, as I said anoying but not a deal braker.
I've never seen an upgrade wipe apps from my Mac. I'm wondering if it works similarly to iOs where if you don't have enough space for the OS upgrade, it removes some apps and attempts to put them back after the upgrade. Just a thought. As far as the Safari strangeness, I haven't experienced that. If you have a backup of your computer, you might try formatting and reinstalling the OS. Although it can be a pain and time consuming, the end results can be worth it.
Hi. I have a huge HD so that isn't the problem, but what's done is done. :) I'm right now backing up, I moved and just now got a chance to connect my external HD. The only thing right now besides safari's weird form controls, is my cursor doesn't seem to do that bonking sound when you're at the top and bottom of something, ie. list of headings, links, etc. Thanks for the help though. Murphy's law, I live it. If you don't know what I mean, if something can go wrong, it usually does to me. lol.
I just updated to OS Sierra a couple days ago, and thus far it is working flawlessly on my end for the most part. A couple bugs seem to be present, but I've no doubt they will be squashed over time. This is a mid-2013 MBA with a solid-state drive. One thing I've noticed is that I've not had as many speech crashes as in recent times. But perhaps as time passes the crashes will increase again. I hope not though. I think I might try uninstalling some unneeded things on here, since we can do that now to a greater extent. But I'm loving Sierra thus far, and Siri is awesome.
I finally downloaded sierra and it is installing as we speak. However, I am not able to load voiceover in the installation window and had to rely on sighted assistance to determine whether it was installing or not. It seems to also be taking longer than what I can remember el capitan took but I am not sure if this means anything. Has anyone else found that they were unable to load voiceover during the actual installation where it copies files?
HI Siera ran a bit sluggish when I first installed it, but I did a repair permitions, and ran clean my mac. Now it's snappy and everything seems to work fine. I'm not experiencing any major bugs and the little changes to voice over are welcome. . I am still extremely happy with my mac and am waiting to see what minor updates bring.
I have the MBP 2012 with 8GB RAM and SSD. I do feel it's slower than El Capitan. One example is when I leave TextEdit and asked if I want to save or revert changes, I keep moving and VO seems to lag. Safari is slower, I did a clean installation twice to see a difference and nothing improved. The same is on my Mac Air 2015.
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Definitely Snappy
Hi there,
Since I installed macOS Sierra on my stock MacBook Pro mid 2012, with 4 GB ram and 500 GB 5400 RPM HD, things seems to be a lot quicker than they use to. I'm almost scared to upgrade my MacBook Pro, even though I have already bought all the parts. I suspect that 16 GB of RAM and 240 GB SSD Will mosey along quite a bit quicker than I am use to.
I suspect, no more hitting the power button, going to the kitchen, making a cup of coffee and taking it back before my Mac is ready. Even now, I have to hurry.
I wish they didn't wipe everything
Hi all. I understand about backups, but I have never had an os completely wipe everything, acting as though you just bought it. I'm still having a few issues in safari, like when reading a long block of text, say a story, it seems to pause, busy, then start, but I've missed something. I had to reinstall flash, not a huge deal, but i lost a few apps I already had. again redownloading them, but that's weird, because when I looked for nightowl, it says open, not download, so I know i had it, but I didn't see it in my apps folder. Next Mac I'm getting will most definitely have a solid state. I could upgrade this, it's the last mac with a slot load dvd cd drive in it. I think I have eight gigs. If anyone knows how to get safari to read better let me know. thanks.
seems snappy for me
i would say that it seems to be a lot more snappy on my end with this MBP, but that could be my being spoiled with this Solid state drive.
El Capitan made me despair
Hi there,
When I bought this MacBook Pro it was running lion, very well I might add. Mountain lion was ok still, a bit slower than lion. Mavericks was getting tedious, but the worst was still to come. The machine was almost on usable by the time we got to Yosemite, El Capitan was completely unusable. For about a year I did not use the Mac at all, I stuck to the iPad.
Now, oh, what can I say! The Mac is working in Full swing! Joyous times.
Commenting on what Siobhan had to say, I have never seen what you are describing, and I have dealt with many a Mac over the last 4 or so years. I have seen hard drives die in spectacular ways, smoke and all, I have seen Macs refuse to boot and everything in between, but not what you are describing. Not to say I do not believe you, for I do. My only advice? Do as most all techies recommend and made backups of your back ups, format your HD and start over. You should do that every year anyway at a minimum, I personally believe in doing it every 6 months.
Didn't happen to me
My upgrade didn't wipe anything whatsoever. I could have, however that requires a very specific set of setps.
What you might be seeing is the setup assistant. It's normal for that to come up and ask you to sign into iCloud again, and to ask a few questions. This doesn't usually mean everything is wiped however.
To wipe everything, it is necessary to use the recovery partition or recovery media, and deliberately wipe the disk. For a typical upgrade, this isn't even possible as the disk running the upgrade is the same one on which you are loading the new os. Any attempt to wipe the disk during the upgrade would, by implication, wipe the very upgrade files it needs to complete said upgrade.
Good to know
This is good to know. It's snappy on my personal machine, but it's a mid 2015 Air with 8 gigs of ram and an SSD. We have a few 2012 MBP's at work that have the specs you have, and anything to make those snappy would be welcome.
To Jake
Hi Jake,
At the moment I still have the stock MacBook pro, but that will not be the case for much longer. As I said in an earlier post, I am putting 16 GB of ram and a 240 GB SSD in there over the weekend. Can't wait to see the difference.
Hi Jake
I understand what you mean, but I promise, itwiped everything. Apps like Nightowl, skype, clean my mac, all need to redownload. again not a huge problem, I've just never seen that happen. Safari is still a little strange, like when I go into form controls, I should see the subject and edit fields for this comment. Instad, I just see "Text format" and save. I don't know if i screwed up a setting somewhere. Thanks though, as I said anoying but not a deal braker.
iI've never seen an upgrade wipe anything
I've never seen an upgrade wipe apps from my Mac. I'm wondering if it works similarly to iOs where if you don't have enough space for the OS upgrade, it removes some apps and attempts to put them back after the upgrade. Just a thought. As far as the Safari strangeness, I haven't experienced that. If you have a backup of your computer, you might try formatting and reinstalling the OS. Although it can be a pain and time consuming, the end results can be worth it.
I'm almost fixed it.
Hi. I have a huge HD so that isn't the problem, but what's done is done. :) I'm right now backing up, I moved and just now got a chance to connect my external HD. The only thing right now besides safari's weird form controls, is my cursor doesn't seem to do that bonking sound when you're at the top and bottom of something, ie. list of headings, links, etc. Thanks for the help though. Murphy's law, I live it. If you don't know what I mean, if something can go wrong, it usually does to me. lol.
Working Great Over Here
I just updated to OS Sierra a couple days ago, and thus far it is working flawlessly on my end for the most part. A couple bugs seem to be present, but I've no doubt they will be squashed over time. This is a mid-2013 MBA with a solid-state drive. One thing I've noticed is that I've not had as many speech crashes as in recent times. But perhaps as time passes the crashes will increase again. I hope not though. I think I might try uninstalling some unneeded things on here, since we can do that now to a greater extent. But I'm loving Sierra thus far, and Siri is awesome.
installing sierra?
I finally downloaded sierra and it is installing as we speak. However, I am not able to load voiceover in the installation window and had to rely on sighted assistance to determine whether it was installing or not. It seems to also be taking longer than what I can remember el capitan took but I am not sure if this means anything. Has anyone else found that they were unable to load voiceover during the actual installation where it copies files?
Thanks for the comments
I may do a clean install later to see if I can speed up things. It is definitely snappy on my end.
Snappy here.
HI Siera ran a bit sluggish when I first installed it, but I did a repair permitions, and ran clean my mac. Now it's snappy and everything seems to work fine. I'm not experiencing any major bugs and the little changes to voice over are welcome. . I am still extremely happy with my mac and am waiting to see what minor updates bring.
I have the MBP 2012 with 8GB
I have the MBP 2012 with 8GB RAM and SSD. I do feel it's slower than El Capitan. One example is when I leave TextEdit and asked if I want to save or revert changes, I keep moving and VO seems to lag. Safari is slower, I did a clean installation twice to see a difference and nothing improved. The same is on my Mac Air 2015.