What is Sibelius for Mac; and is it accessible?

macOS and Mac Apps

for Mac OS users i want to ask, what Sibelius for mac it can be used by blind users?



Submitted by Mara on Tuesday, February 14, 2017

No, in short it can't. Garageband is the only cheap option at the moment and it's note editor is not accessible. There is also MuseScore which is partially accessible.

Submitted by Joseph Westhouse on Tuesday, February 14, 2017

Actually, strictly speaking Lilypond would be the most accessible option for music notation on the mac, since the entire interface is just entering text in a text editor. It's definitely more tedious than something with a more sophisticated UI, and requires a good understanding of music and ability to really visualize the score, but in terms of an accessible way to produce high-quality, attractive musical scores, it's the best option I've encountered.

I assume Sibelius is inaccessible, because as I understand the interface is largely graphical in nature, based on dragging note heads onto the staff, and there wouldn't be any way to do this with VO. I would love it if there was a more streamlined, accessible music notation solution available but if there is, I'm not aware of it.

Submitted by Justin on Tuesday, February 14, 2017

Logic pro X is usable with VO from what I've heard. I tried using Sibelius when I was in college, but no dice. It is indeed as you said, very graphical, and not VO friendly. Your best bet is Logic pro and/or garage band, or that other app lilypond or whatever it was called.

Submitted by Joseph Westhouse on Tuesday, February 14, 2017

To echo the earlier question - how would one use Logic Pro or Garage Band to create a musical score? As I understand, these programs work fine for creating actual music, but they aren't designed for preparing sheet music that can be handed to a musician. I assume that's what the original poster is looking for, as this is the primary function of Sibelius.

Submitted by KE7ZUM on Tuesday, February 14, 2017

I believe logic can be used to make scores for handing out and so can gb but i dont' know how.

Submitted by Mara on Wednesday, February 15, 2017

I had forgotten about LilyPond. Thanks for the reminder.
The note-editor in GB is not accessible and as has already been said, it's not designed to be used for the creation of music.

Submitted by dharmaputra on Wednesday, February 15, 2017

In reply to by Justin

@ justin,
whether pro logic could be used to make the score? and whether the pro logic can be used by blind users?

Submitted by Justin on Wednesday, February 15, 2017

As far as I know, logic pro can make scores, and yes it is usable with VO.

Submitted by Joseph Westhouse on Wednesday, February 15, 2017

Lilypond is a text-based music editor, so everything that will appear in the score is defined by typing it into a text file using a specialized syntax. Then Lilypond can compile that text file into a musical score. From what I've heard, the results are very consistent and look good, so long as you haven't made any mistakes in your input - though the program does provide an error report if there's something amiss in your input such as failing to indicate where a slur should end, or so on. The program can also compile a .midi file from your score, which is helpful for listening to what you've written and making sure that it's coming out the way you expect. I can't count the number of times I've accidentally had things in the wrong octave, and caught it from listening to the midi.

Regarding Logic, some quick Googling does seem to indicate that it can generate a score, though this certainly doesn't seem to be the primary function, so I'm not sure ho trustworthy the results would be, or how streamlined the process would be. Anybody have experience composing orchestral, choral, or piano/vocal music with Logic and can speak to that?

Submitted by Joseph on Wednesday, February 15, 2017

Logic can, as has been said before, be used by VO users. But it's not cheep.

Submitted by KE7ZUM on Wednesday, February 15, 2017

I stopped using lily pond as it was getting way too complex. I wish I could just create my stuff and put include where I want the part to begin and it insert the amount of rests needed just like alda can do.

Submitted by Joseph Westhouse on Wednesday, February 15, 2017

Agreed that Lilypond can be pretty complex and tedious, especially if working with more complex scores. (Scoring piano parts in Lilypond makes me want to cry). But to date I haven't found a better alternative. I'm intrigued by the possibility of printing scores in Logic, though I'm curious about how to actually edit note values, etc.? In my experience, you don't want to generate a score just from something recorded with a hardware keyboard, because often if your rhythm is a tiny bit off, that will be represented in the score. So there'd still need to be a way to interact with the score and make sure everything is doing what you want. Can this be done in Logic?

Submitted by KE7ZUM on Wednesday, February 15, 2017

I heard the note editor is accessible now. So yeah it can be done. I don't have logic on my computer but if I could enter notes in with the keyboard and change their rhythms, put words in my score I can finally get this thing published I've ben trying to work on for years now. It is a tribute to a teacher I had a while ago and I ant to give it to her at some point.

Submitted by dharmaputra on Thursday, February 16, 2017

I want to create music scores. and I want to give her the results of my friends who are not visually impaired. what applications can I use?

Submitted by dharmaputra on Sunday, April 9, 2017

hello all, i want to buy Sibelius for my macbook, what this application can be used with voice over?

Submitted by Justin on Sunday, April 9, 2017

I don't know if it works with VO as of now. A few years ago when I was in college, some of the music majors, me included had to use sibelius, and I couldn't get it to work, so I had one of my sighted friends help me with the application.
As far as I am aware, sibelius is not usable with VO.

Submitted by dharmaputra on Tuesday, April 11, 2017

thanks for the answer ...