They can not make one without having AI technology. For that you need what people call quantum computer. PC that is similar to out brain able to process more info faster than regular PC and capable to do multi tasking without slowing down.Today PC are faster but not able to decide what task is first. Sad you and I will be not alive.
Accessibility for visual impairments will be a slow battle for self-driving cars, starting with taxi type services, but a legitimate concern of blind people, long before that battle is won or lost, will be the lack of auditory cues from the actual machinery of the vehicle. I am lucky enough to live on a fairly quiet street in a nowhere kind of neighborhood, but the current gas/electric cars sometime used by taxi services here would be impossible to hear in busier places. I hope they will have some foresight over this... Might take a few good splattering incidents to get it addressed.
Even if people start using self-driving cars soon, it won't be me. It is going to be a long time before AI will be able to compete with the stupidity of many human drivers.
The car will always need human supervision. Blind person would not be able to stop the car if an emergency happens yet sighted person would react to what he sees. Think of them in 2021 for them. Need the structure to handle the cars similar to what planes have in the air. Someone monitores the planes to avoid air crush. Most planes flight by themselves but they still have humans to watch.
Sadly the penultimate poster is correct. It will be a long time before self driving cars, in the true sense of the name, are a reality. Cars such as the Tesla have had to rename their automated driving assisted driving because it misrepresents the ability of the technology and the responsibility of the driver.
There will still have to be a driver, no doubt holding a driver's license, behind the wheel to intercede in emergencies. The self driving car is, of course, the ultimate goal, but it is a good decade away and, I believe the apple car, what ever form it takes in a few years time, won't have that capability.
We'll have to wait but, I'm okay with that. I'd rather have safe cars on the road.
elon musk, at least for now, is not serious about self driving, he only uses it as a marketing gambit, that's why he is content with level 2 autonomy; google and gm are actually more ambitious in the us.
Thank you, that was the terminology I was alluding to.
I do wonder what the restricting factors are. Does the area need to be mapped to a certain resolution? IE, you could have a self driving car in a city but not in the sticks?
I know there was going to be a self driving pilot in Bristol UK, my city, but never came to much. Knowing the traffic around here and the constant diversions due to roadworks, I can imagine this is a very difficult test. Here, at least, I think it requires human control to some extent, or decision making as in, try going this way instead of that...
Think, for now, I am just going to Roomba surf.
Interesting point though, there were some pilots for personal mobility for the blind in cities. imagine a self driving mobility scoooter that can go anywhere. Now that would be coool... Even if we'd look like prats riding them.
If that was a Stephen king reference, I applaud you. Though I'd like to think apple would go more down the route of Kit from knight rider rather than a jealous Plymouth fury instilled by the horror of its former owner... But who knows, they did force everyone to download U2 back in the day, so who knows what other monstrous acts they are capable of.
quote, imagine a self driving mobility scoooter that can go anywhere. Now that would be coool... Even if we'd look like prats riding them. unquote
true self driving cars with level 4 autonomy aren't supposed to have steerring wheel, so you can sit on the driver seat, but why would you want to do that? big bosses always sig in the back seat, they don't ride shotgun beside their chauffeurs.
On your comment about quantum computers. That's not necessary for this. What quantum computers are doing is manipulating the probability of a particle in superposition to be a 1 or a 0. Once it comes out and is measured and recorded, it's just an ordinary bit. This means they perform certain tasks better like simulations and database lookups. In the case of autonomous vehicles, neural networks are proving to work reasonably well, though with their limitations. Analogue computing may be the answer, but it probably won't be quantum computing or quantum annealing for that matter, first and foremost because they have to happen at near-asbolute-zero temperatures to reduce quantum noise. We're probably going to see l4 and l5 autonomous vehicles before we see quantum computers in the consumer space.
Anyway, to keep this at least somewhat Apple-related, their foray into AR tech definitely gives them an edge when it comes to this sort of thing. We'll just have to wait and keep our ears to the ground.
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They can not make one without having AI technology. For that you need what people call quantum computer. PC that is similar to out brain able to process more info faster than regular PC and capable to do multi tasking without slowing down.Today PC are faster but not able to decide what task is first. Sad you and I will be not alive.
I keep hearing about test cars already driving around
Have Apple's test cars been taken off the road? I thought they're still being tested around the US.
I'd sure love to hop in my Apple iCar someday and tell it where to take me. smile
Whenever...
Accessibility for visual impairments will be a slow battle for self-driving cars, starting with taxi type services, but a legitimate concern of blind people, long before that battle is won or lost, will be the lack of auditory cues from the actual machinery of the vehicle. I am lucky enough to live on a fairly quiet street in a nowhere kind of neighborhood, but the current gas/electric cars sometime used by taxi services here would be impossible to hear in busier places. I hope they will have some foresight over this... Might take a few good splattering incidents to get it addressed.
not any time soon
It won't happen anytime soon. Then until the blind are allowed to use it good luck it will be another 40 or 50 years later.
I don't think it will be longer for us
Once sighted people with no driving license can use them drunk, whilst watching a movie or sleeping, blind people should be able to use them.
So it won't take that much longer for it to happen for us than for everyone else. It's just how long that is going to be that is the big question.
It will be a while
Even if people start using self-driving cars soon, it won't be me. It is going to be a long time before AI will be able to compete with the stupidity of many human drivers.
To add to the previousā¦
To add to the previous comment, the only way I see it happening is if you take away the human driver for all vehicles.
Let's face it, I think hell will freeze over before that happens.
If the roads have a mix of both human and driverless vehicles, there's going to be problems.
In theory, machines can talk to each other and avoid collisions.
What do us humans do? road rage and honk our horns at each other.
I just hope it doesn't end up like that movie called Upgrade, or that TV show called Next.
I'll be amazed if it does happen in my lifetime.
They will never
The car will always need human supervision. Blind person would not be able to stop the car if an emergency happens yet sighted person would react to what he sees. Think of them in 2021 for them. Need the structure to handle the cars similar to what planes have in the air. Someone monitores the planes to avoid air crush. Most planes flight by themselves but they still have humans to watch.
Sadly the penultimate posterā¦
Sadly the penultimate poster is correct. It will be a long time before self driving cars, in the true sense of the name, are a reality. Cars such as the Tesla have had to rename their automated driving assisted driving because it misrepresents the ability of the technology and the responsibility of the driver.
There will still have to be a driver, no doubt holding a driver's license, behind the wheel to intercede in emergencies. The self driving car is, of course, the ultimate goal, but it is a good decade away and, I believe the apple car, what ever form it takes in a few years time, won't have that capability.
We'll have to wait but, I'm okay with that. I'd rather have safe cars on the road.
true self driving means driverless
technically, you need at least level 4 autonomy. since it is driverless, there is no need for a driver holding a license. level 4 autonomy has been operating commercially ibn some parts of the world:
https://www.zdnet.com/article/baidu-and-pony-ai-each-score-permits-to-operate-driverless-taxi-service-in-beijing/
elon musk, at least for now, is not serious about self driving, he only uses it as a marketing gambit, that's why he is content with level 2 autonomy; google and gm are actually more ambitious in the us.
Thank you, that was theā¦
Thank you, that was the terminology I was alluding to.
I do wonder what the restricting factors are. Does the area need to be mapped to a certain resolution? IE, you could have a self driving car in a city but not in the sticks?
I know there was going to be a self driving pilot in Bristol UK, my city, but never came to much. Knowing the traffic around here and the constant diversions due to roadworks, I can imagine this is a very difficult test. Here, at least, I think it requires human control to some extent, or decision making as in, try going this way instead of that...
Think, for now, I am just going to Roomba surf.
Interesting point though, there were some pilots for personal mobility for the blind in cities. imagine a self driving mobility scoooter that can go anywhere. Now that would be coool... Even if we'd look like prats riding them.
I'm gonna get a self-driving car ...
... and I'm going to name it Christine. Enemies beware!!!! LOL
If that was a Stephen kingā¦
If that was a Stephen king reference, I applaud you. Though I'd like to think apple would go more down the route of Kit from knight rider rather than a jealous Plymouth fury instilled by the horror of its former owner... But who knows, they did force everyone to download U2 back in the day, so who knows what other monstrous acts they are capable of.
ride like a boss
quote, imagine a self driving mobility scoooter that can go anywhere. Now that would be coool... Even if we'd look like prats riding them. unquote
true self driving cars with level 4 autonomy aren't supposed to have steerring wheel, so you can sit on the driver seat, but why would you want to do that? big bosses always sig in the back seat, they don't ride shotgun beside their chauffeurs.
The latest news
Hi. I found a news update for the various companies developing driverless cars. Smile. Here it is:
https://apple.news/AXjVR8leLRNezzbaB7LIueg
@Holger Fiallo
On your comment about quantum computers. That's not necessary for this. What quantum computers are doing is manipulating the probability of a particle in superposition to be a 1 or a 0. Once it comes out and is measured and recorded, it's just an ordinary bit. This means they perform certain tasks better like simulations and database lookups. In the case of autonomous vehicles, neural networks are proving to work reasonably well, though with their limitations. Analogue computing may be the answer, but it probably won't be quantum computing or quantum annealing for that matter, first and foremost because they have to happen at near-asbolute-zero temperatures to reduce quantum noise. We're probably going to see l4 and l5 autonomous vehicles before we see quantum computers in the consumer space.
Anyway, to keep this at least somewhat Apple-related, their foray into AR tech definitely gives them an edge when it comes to this sort of thing. We'll just have to wait and keep our ears to the ground.