Problem when enabling File Vault during Installation of Yosemite

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While installing Yosemite, I checked the box to enable File Vault. The installation proceeded perfectly. However, when I re-started my Macbook Air, my computer opened to a login screen. I had to enable Voiceover (Cmd F5) to read the screen. However, I could not move the VO cursor to the Name and Password fields. I had to get sighted assistance to login.

I am now in the process of turning off File Vault.

Has anyone else encountered this problem?

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#1 Login screen

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I don't use File Vault, but I have my computer set to require login after restart, so I am used to the login screen.

I haven't had any issues using the login screen with VoiceOver. I have my computer set up to use a username and password text field layout on the login screen, so I just type my username, hit tab, type my password, and press return. If for some reason the focus is not in the login window, which occasionally happens, a mouse click is enough to fix that. It doesn't matter where on the screen the mouse click happens.

Perhaps things are different under Yosemite, but so far I haven't run into anything unusual regarding logging in.

#2 Same Problem

Hi. I've always had my Mac set to log in which I have had no problems with. However, after doing the same during installation of Yosemite, I can no longer turn on Voiceover at start up with cmd F5 and am unable to log in. No sighted assistance on hand today unfortunately.

#3 File Vault and Yosemite

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I would suggest that if you are upgrading to Yosemite, you do not choose to enable File Vault. After I disabled File Vault in Security Settings, my computer works fine.

#4 firevolt

Yes, I've also encountered this issue. I luckily had sighted assistance around to help me log in but I wish I knew about this then.

#5 Logging in without sighted assistance

If you are experiencing this, try the following: Once your Mac boots up, give it around fifteen seconds from when you turn it on, hit command F5 to turn on Voiceover. Your Mac will beep. Type in your account's username and hit Tab. Your Mac will beep again. Type in your account's password and hit Enter. Your Mac will beep three times, whereupon after about ten seconds Voiceover will speak and OS 10 will appear. I have emailed accessibility@apple.com to make them aware of this issue, but I hope this helps in the interim.

#6 standard procedure

"If you are experiencing this, try the following: Once your Mac boots up, give it around fifteen seconds from when you turn it on, hit command F5 to turn on Voiceover. Your Mac will beep. Type in your account's username and hit Tab. Your Mac will beep again. Type in your account's password and hit Enter. Your Mac will beep three times, whereupon after about ten seconds Voiceover will speak and OS 10 will appear."

what you have described is the standard procedure for logging in when one has to rely on vo to log in, the previous posters seemed to have trouble with this.
i have one of my computers on yosemite, frankly i don't have any problem, so i don't really understand the complaint. so when you guys press command-f5, your computer n longer beeps?

#7 Standard procedure

The complaint is that prior to activating file vault in Yosemite, Voiceover speaks at the login prompt, giving speech interaction when entering your username and password. If file vault is activated, Voiceover no longer speaks at the login prompt, and pressing Command F5 doesn't turn it on. Thus, those who are not used to logging in without the use of Voiceover might not be able to utilize their Macs without sighted assistance to get past the login screen. Although it's not ideal, I've attempted to show how to log in for those who have chosen to activate file vault until Apple fixes the issue.

#8 that is correct

but when someone using vo attempt to enable FileVaul, there should be a message instructing how to log in to the machine after filevaul is enabled, or is it no longer the case?
a FileVaul enabled machine never speak user and password prompt, because the whole disk including voiceover.app is encrypted, vo is not usable in this state.

#9 There is a prompt. you missed

There is a prompt. you missed it though before restarting. I did a whole podcast on file vault under mavericks this year at http://tffppodcast.com/listen just search for file vault and you will find it.

#10 File Vault

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In my case, when my computer restarted, after updating to Yosemite with File Vault enabled, I had to enable VO with Cmd F5. VO started but it did not indicate where my focus was. It turns out, with sighted assistance, I learned that my focus was in the username field. Perhaps if I had typed my username and pressed Tab to enter my password, it would have worked.

I agree that some sort of warning should be displayed when installing Yosemite using VO to indicate the procedure to follow.

Thanks for all the feedback.

#11 Latest Podcast

The latest episode of the AppleVis podcasts discusses this in detail. By now it may or may not still be the latest one, but it is one that was submitted early yesterday. I just listened to it and followed the instructions given, and everything worked great. I got the 3 beeps which told me my log-in was successful. But I'm wondering if any of you have been prompted that your Mac was "optimizing?" After I logged in again upon re-start, my Mac's data was encrypted. Now it says it is optimizing, and it has about 6 hours to go.

#12 fire vault

Honestly, unless you're working for an agency that has strict privacy and confidentiality rules, I wouldn't bother with it. I know how to use it, but its just too much of a hassle going through the beeping prompts and so on. Plus, when you do log in, it takes a little while to get your system up and running which I also don't like. My machine is fully SSD, and I want the speed that it offers so something that limits performance to that extent is not worth it unless I'm working for the CIA or something.
Just my two cents worth.