Hello, AppleVis community. I have heard about a new AppleVis app that will be coming to the App Store, and it seems like it is currently in beta. I also definitely noticed this when listening to the recent podcast on the iPhone Duo when the AppleVis beta app was briefly mentioned on the device's home screen. I'm curious when this app will be releasing to the public and how I can join the TestFlight beta
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Unnecessary
I personally think this was unnecessary and a waste of time and resources. You can already do this by making a Web app with the website link.
Hopefully Soon
Hi Seamus,
There is indeed an AppleVis app in the works, and it doesn't surprise me that you're hearing about it out in the wild. 😊 I don't want to make any promises, but we are really hoping for a public beta sometime in December and an App Store launch in 2027. We are really excited about this and can't wait to share it with the community.
Excited for an Applevis app!
I can't wait until it goes live!! Since I got my first iPhone, I've preferred apps instead of using a browser.
still anooyed
Still annoyed I won't be able to use it, but it is what it is, it's just I'll have to use this app on my phone I guess and use it on my Mac, which is annoying because I use my phone a lot more when I'm out then I do my Mac
Re: Unnecessary
Completely agree with this. And even without making it into Web App, I spoke to some people a while back about this and they said they were a lot more accustomed to and wanting to use the website over a possible app. I'm also concerned about the device that this will bring to those who don't use iOS and those who use iOS. I understand that this app and website were originally for Apple users, but not everyone here users Apple, and I personally feel it's honestly somewhat unfair for us on the other side to miss out. So whilst I do usually agree with the editorial team here, I have to unfortunately disagree and agree with blue here on this one.
Re: Unnecessary
Hi Blue,
Thank you for your feedback.
You are certainly entitled to your opinion about whether a native AppleVis app is necessary or something you would personally find useful. However, I do take issue with your characterization of this project as a "waste of time and resources."
What you may not realize is that this app began as a personal passion project undertaken by a member of our Editorial Team. It was not something that AppleVis set out to develop as part of some larger organizational initiative, although an app has been on our wish list since the very early days of AppleVis and is far and away our most-requested enhancement by users.
The reason we have an AppleVis app is because someone who cares very deeply about this community had an idea, wanted to see what he could accomplish, and was willing to put in the time and effort to make it happen. If you have not already done so, I would encourage you to read AnonyMouse's post about the project and what it has meant to him.
I have watched this project develop over the past several months, and I cannot begin to express how proud I am of Thomas and what he has accomplished. An enormous amount of thought, care, time, and effort has gone into creating something that we hope will be of real value to our community, and we can't wait to share it with everyone when it is ready.
Of course, if you wish to instead make a web app with the website link, you are certainly welcome to do so.
Thank you Thomas
It seems no matter what people do to try and help this community there are those that have nothing better to do other then gripe. Is anyone forcing you to use the app? Did they say the website is going away? If so please tell me where Michael stated that. I read through it three times. It isn't stated. The website will be hear if that is how you prefer to use it go for it. I like the app idea and amm looking forward to it. Thanks for all the hard work Thomas Michael and the rest of the team do its appreciated.
Re: Unnecessary
Hi Dominic,
Thank you for your feedback.
AppleVis exists to serve and empower blind, DeafBlind, and low vision users of Apple products and services. I do not believe that developing an app specifically for iOS users of an Apple-focused community is in any way unfair to those who use other platforms. While we do have the Non-Apple Forums, our mission and focus will always be Apple, and I am not going to apologize for that.
The AppleVis website is not going anywhere. After the app launches, we plan to bring new features from the app to the website where it makes sense to do so. We are not going to have exact feature parity for parity's sake, but if people love something in the app and it would work well on the website, we want to do it.
Re: Thank you Thomas
If you're responding to me, that's not what I was meaning and that's not what I said. Of course the website will still be here, and I understand that. But to essentially say that those who are in disagreement are griping about it it's just unfair on other people's opinions. We all have differing opinions here, and we all need to respect that.
Re: Unnecessary
Thanks for this. Again I've been on this website since 2020 technically, and I love the site, I just feel like an app would be easier for navigating things, especially on mobile, but I do again understand I do not have the devices to test on so it is what it is I guess
Re: Unnecessary
I also agree. I hope the app can succeed in whatever way it decides to become. Thomas and the editorial teams contributions to the website in general should not be understated despite my own views they have done a lot of good towards this website if we're being completely honest here.
Re: Thank you Thomas
Hi, I’m reaching out about the recent vibe around supporting blind people—like with the *Apple this app*. If you’re not into it, that’s perfectly fine—no one’s stuck because they skip it. It’s just one way to make life smoother.
I’m sharing this more broadly: many of us are hoping to ease daily challenges, like with the *Apple this app*. If you don’t want to use it, there’s no pressure—every tool serves a purpose.
awesome
I'm glad this is finally coming! I would love to try out the beta once it becomes available! Not only will this make applevis even better than it already is, but the layout of the app could enspir e new devs on how to lay out their apps for the best accessability possible!
Re: Thank you Thomas
holy AI responce but that's cool i guess, we just won't try to get at my points.
It’s no different than…
It’s no different than those that want to use Brave instead of Safari or that wanna use an iPhone app to do something there’s nothing wrong with the website. There’s nothing wrong with the app. It’s just two ways to get the job done. Each person can pick which one they prefer.
Re: It’s no different than…
Yes, I understand that, but if you haven't been reading, that's the point I've been trying to make for the last 20 minutes. People have different opinions and people use what they want to use, I understand that this is an Apple related website and I understand this was born to be and I understand that this will remain to be, but as someone who uses android and macOS, I feel at a bit of a slight disadvantage here because navigating the website on android is a bit of a task which is why I don't use android to make my comments and only use my Mac which when I'm going out isn't something I prefer doing. So I feel like an app would alleviate that problem
I need the link for the new beta version of Apple vis
Hello there is it possible that I can get the TestFlight link? Thanks.
Re: I need the link for the new beta version of Apple vis
They will release the beta version hopefully in December, with a public release hopefully in 2027
no link is available publicly at this time
Interest
I don't often use my phone for social media, but having an app for AppleVis is of interest to me. Safari or WebKit is... wonky for a lot of things on iOS... I very much trust AppleVis more to maintain an app for accessibility than, for example, Youtube. And the web site is a fallback if there is a short term difficulty.
Re: Interest
So it seems like iOS and android both have issues with their web navigation. You see what I'm trying to get at . It won't happen, but I can only dream at this point.
Once this goes public...
I'll definitely give this a look once it's publicly released. I've wanted to see something like this for years and am glad it's becoming a thing.
iPhone Duo support
I hope the app also supports iPhone Duo in folded and unfolded mode properly. I'm very excited to try this out once it launches.
AppleVis
To check what is going on here I always use my windows 10 PC/ O do not see myself using it but whatever works for others. It is a free nation and people are free to use whatever works for them. Keep warm all is cold in Chicago.
Re: Interest
There's always navigation issues for screen readers. It's just life in the world that got transferred over to digital life in the digital world.
Re: Interest
yes. hope with newer Technology and ai it can be fixt.
Excited to try the applevis app 😊
First of all, congratulations on the app! Developing an app is no small challenge, and I’m sure it’s been quite a journey. Well done, Thomas, for taking on this project, and well done to everyone involved for all the work you do for this community!
Now, regarding Dominic’s comment about Android users being treated unfairly, I’d like to share my perspective.
I use both iPhone and Android, so I’m not looking at this exclusively from an Apple user’s perspective.
We have AppleVis, and we also have Accessible Android. Accessible Android has its own app, which, as far as I’m aware, is not available for iOS. So why should the AppleVis app necessarily be available for Android?
The way I’ve always understood it is that Accessible Android was created primarily with Android users in mind, just as AppleVis was originally created primarily for Apple users. Isn’t that essentially the same thing?
I understand that navigating the AppleVis website on Android might not be as convenient as having a dedicated app. However, I don’t think that automatically makes it AppleVis’s responsibility to develop an Android app. The website is there, and it’s a perfectly valid way of accessing the community. Not every organisation or developer needs to create an app for every operating system.
And let’s not forget that AppleVis also welcomes discussions about Android, Windows and other operating systems. That’s already an extra level of openness beyond its primary focus.
Personally, I don’t see this as discrimination. I see it as a platform-specific app being developed for a community whose primary focus has always been Apple.
Anyway, I don’t want the discussion about the app’s availability to take away from the achievement itself. Congratulations again, Thomas. It’s great to see someone putting so much time, effort and passion into creating something for this community. Well done!
Re: It’s no different than…
Hi Dominic,
The navigation issues on Android you mentioned... Is this something specific to AppleVis? How does AppleVis compare to your experience with other websites? Obviously if there are any accessibility issues, we want to address those. Thanks.
Re: iPhone Duo support
Hi Manuel,
The app will indeed fully support iPhone Duo at launch.
Regards,
Michael
Re: It’s no different than…
no, it's just android being a pain in the ass. only reason i'd go back to an iPhone
Re: Excited to try the applevis app 😊
i never said it was discrimination
also, if i'm being hones, you can't really compare av and aa to each other.
one of the main appeels of AV is that you can get help at any time. they hav a forom. i'm not sure if aa has that, i know they hav there group chats and facebook and stuff but yeah,
Re: It’s no different than…
The offer stands. While we won't be releasing the app on non-Apple platforms, we also want to make sure that the website continues to be a fully accessible and best-in-class experience on all platforms--Android included. So please do let us know if you do encounter any issues.
excited for the AppleVis app
though I generally use the website now, for most things, I joined, there have been numerus requests over the years. according to the AppleVis analidics, I've been a member for thirteen years and three months. over that time, i've seen requests for Eloquence to be added to iOS, apps being depracated when the change to sixty four bit happen, and some were never updated, look tell money reader, orify, and countless others. now, not all requests can be fulfilled, and some, like an AppleVis app, were years in the making. I'm not sure what the UI will be, butt I will be deffenatly beta testing, when the opportunity comes. speking of money readers, which i've seen lamented over the years, No tell Money reader has just been added to the iOS app directory on here, and sometimes, developers see the need, who haven't grown up pre iOS 11. now, an AppleVis app, one of various requests over the years, I commend Thomas for his efffords. I know from writing some Python myself , years ago, coding is a skill that takes focus, and discipline. . beta testing, is an important part of app development. . now, i'm not sure if this app is AI assisted or not, it seems lots are, and that's okay. , as long as an app works as advertised, ,. I personally have no problem with it. an AppleVis app, is no different. I'm not sure if there will be in-app purchases, Thomas might want to make money from this. I commend his efforts, and regardless of when beta 1 drops, I'll treat the beta process like iOS beta testing. . I've honed my bug reporting skills since 2013, , and look forward to providing feedback.
Re: excited for the AppleVis app
Daniel i'm sure you will be an excellent tester. this is what apps need is people willing to test.
Re: excited for the AppleVis app
i will also probs test if a mac version comes out. i hav an m1 mac book air so im very much able to test if it comes to mac
Re: excited for the AppleVis app
Hi Daniel,
The actual code for the app was written by AI but it was designed and source-prompted by us. Like all AppleVis resources, the app will always be completely free.
Good job, but not for me
I have no problem with an AppleVis app. I also have no interest in it. Ten years ago, yes, it would have been very useful. There were reasons why it wasn't made then. The reasons why it is being made now are also the reasons why it is, to me, the past. I have seen quite a few developers over the past two years use the new thing to give us the old thing - sometimes better, sometimes not. Sometimes they put a lot of time and effort into it, sometimes they want us to pay, a lot. How many "use a computer for blind" apps did you see last year? ChatGPT uses Chrome for me, really well, as part of my £20 subscription. I wish the new app well, I am sure it will help newly blind and newly blind iphone users Etc.
Public Libraries And Apps
Do you hold the same stance about public libraries when they develop apps for their systems? I like using the Seattle Public Library's app over the website, when I'm on mobile devices anyway. Sure, I still use their website when I'm on a desktop/laptop. Or how about just use stand-alone digital players instead of playing content on BARD or using their Braille Display features? Mind you, i love reading physical books, but don't have space this day and age. So many companies, organizations etc. have developed apps to complement their website and physical establishments. Their apps often times have features and other components that their site may not have. As long as it is properly developed and is more than just a web wrapper. Don't be like Mini Review, where their app is clunky and nothing more than a web wrapper of their site. How is it different when AppleVis develops an app to complement their site?
Navigation
I'm not sure what navigation issues you are having with the AppleVis site on Android. I navigate fine with my Pixel 11 Pro XL, my IPad Pro and my work laptop using both Brave and Chrome browsers.
Re: excited for the AppleVis app
hi Michael,
that is interesting. it's good it's free, as some in other countries can't afford in-app purchases or apps, do to exchange rates. I would've gladly paid, but i'm in a position where I can afford it. the app, what language is it written in? will it be open sourced? as the website is using a heading structure, , how will the app handle that? i'll have to wait and see when beta 1 drops. is there anyway i could contribute financially to AppleVis? it is a valuable resource. back when David Goodwin ran it, there was Club AppleVis, and i donated for a long time. maybe some of my donation, could go to financing some costs with tokens for ongoing development or something.
Re: excited for the AppleVis app
i'd also donate
Sounds cool
I hope there is a "Share" button for the articles in the app that way we can share them in messages, e-mail, etc.