I just want to ask everybody about the focus bug in phone app. I mean, when I try to call from recent call list I tap on a name and then double tap on the name which I want to call, but call go's to some other person in the call list. this same bug I encountered in favourites, and this bug is exist for long.
2nd bug I found is find my app is not accessible with voiceover.
it is unusable with screen recognition as well.
the 3rd thing I noticed is that siri does not work's efficiently .
for example , when we ask siri to open password settings , or any other specific settings , it open general settings every time no matter what you ask.
I just want to ask everybody if this happen with them also , or I am the only one?
I think the phone bug and find my bug is annoying.
lastly I want to here your thoughts on all this.
thank you all in advance for your replies.
Bhavik A Vyas
By Bhavik Vyas, 18 April, 2022
I’m not seeing any of these bugs on my iPhone 13
Hi. As the subject says, I don’t encounter any of your bugs. I can successfully use Find My to find my current iPhone and my AirPods Pro. I don’t have issues with the Phone app either. I haven’t tried your settings example, but I suspect it would also work.
I wonder if there's a language issue
Hi. It's clear from your writing, English may not be your first language which is completely ok. However if you speak with an accent, I'm wondering if siri can't detect what you mean. also I think you can just type in what setting you want and I'm sure that might work. The phone bug I haven't had and the find my, I don't use. I should probably. I'm sorry i'm not of more help but other than what I've suggested, I don't see why the bugs you are having are coming up.
but i do have all this bugs.
then any body knows why is this happens to me? please answer. I am using Iphone 12pro max IOS 15.4.1.
Bhavik A Vyas
i can speak english properly if thats what you think.
the siri bug which i was pointing out is same for every one. because i herd siri behaving same on a podcast of jonathan mosen, mosen at large. some body on this podcast demonstrating something and she invoke siri to open sound and haptic settings but siri open general settings instead. so you see i know what i am reporting. and about writing. i am writing something for the first time , so i have some errors naturally.
Cannot confirm all of your findings
I'm currently not able to reproduce all of your described issues. For example, I can open password settings by saying "Show my passwords" to Siri. Also, I'm able to jump directly to general settings or accessibility settings by telling Siri to do so. Nevertheless, I've often heard that some people are encountering the annoying focus bug in the phone app in the recents or favorites tab. For me, this does not occur on my iPhone 13.
Squirrels not Bugs...
I think IOS 15 has focus issues all around that happen in different apps for different people's devices, just from watching the subjects here on AppleVis. For me, it's in the most recent pictures section of the Photos app where I notice it the most, but I use that app more often than the phone app. I don't know what is causing VO to lose focus in an app that is seemingly static, nothing seems to help, and I don't know why Apple isn't addressing them. We're about half way through the life cycle of 15.
That’s what I’m saying
That’s what I’m saying Apple is not addressing the focus issue from long time. And yes, Siri open’s the password settings when I say show my passwords, but does not open when I say open password settings. nevertheless, it’ solves my problem. Thank you.
One annoying bug is with…
One annoying bug is with AirPods even though I have them with me, it keeps saying that I’ve left them behind. Very strange. I do not have any other issues to be honest.
iOS 15 Bugs
I've noticed the Siri bug many times. Usually it doesn't bother me too much but it is definitely there and persistent. The Photos app crashing bug is also really annoying but it seemed to get fixed a few months ago on my iPhone (still present on iPad though). The AirPods being left behind bug is also there although I just ignore it because my AirPods are always in my pocket. The Phone app and FindMy app bugs I haven't encountered at all, but it seems like different people with different configurations have different issues. Hope this helps.
Home app and find my
The home app and find my are accessible, including the home app here as it illustrates a point, but they are very poorly designed, IE, flicking through one way produces one list of items, flicking back the other way creates a different list. I believe there is a focus based pop out in there somewhere but, in general, both find my and home app are dodgy. they are usable though, my worry is that people who are less tech savvy than I might really struggle to use them.
Saying that, I think there might be an overhaul of such apps in IOS 16, hence the fuzzy focus issues not being resolved.
I also have AirPods bug which is mentioned in the comments
Every bugs mention above is present for me also.
Can't reproducing these bugs, but BT-speaker issue since IOS 14
As the subject says, I can't reproduce even one of the mentioned bugs. I use an iPhone 12 Pro with the latest IOS-version.
But there's one anoying bug which anoys me and many others since IOS 14.6. if you're pearing a BT-speaker with your iPhone, Voiceover's sound level is totally freaking out.
I reported it to Apple's accessibility-team, but they always only stating that they noticed this behavior and are working on it.
workaround for the focus issue in the recents tab in phone
To verify who you're going to call first in the recents / favorites tabs, triple tap or perform a long press on the selected contact or number. This opens up some options for that contact, with their name at the top. If the name is correct, just choose what you want to do from that list.
Facebook Messenger settings
I have this problem where you go on Messenger settings, when you select certain settings, it will move to either The left or the right of options in settings
Not experiencing any of the bugs mentioned
Subject says it all. I haven't experienced any bugs @1 has mentioned.
Focus in News
I am grateful I don't have these bugs, but for me, iOS 15.4 added a focus bug in News. When I encounter the all too common embedded Twitter box, either the focus will jump back to the top of the page, or, flicking right will be impeded. If either happens, I have to navigate by touch to find my place, or continue.
The Facebook messenger bug with focus in settings have been removed after last update and after I submitted feedback to the Facebook Messenger app.
In case the system apps lose focus, turning VoiceOver on and off usually fixes the issue
Phone Bug i have.
Hello guys, yes, I too have the same issue with the Phone app in the favorites and recent area. If you go to the person's name and doubletap, it will call someone else. So, I have started a habit of swiping up for more info and then go to call button there. I believe it started at IOS 14.6 and it still is happening now.
I don't use Siri much due to my speech is not that clear, so can't help you there. As for Find My app, it works fine for me.
I have been shooting around the idea of doing a complete wipe and reinstalling everything fresh. Sometimes you need to do that for a fresh install.
I have Siri opening settings to general category bug
I can't ask Siri to go to any specific group of settings anymore. It always goes to general.
Response to Oliver
I'm finding more and more places where navigation forward and back are not the same. Flicking right moves through a set of items and flicking left will skip over some of those items or even go to a different place altogether.
I think it's most notable in any web based app interface.
And I've seen it in lots of places on iOS Apple apps.
I'd like Apple to know that it isn't fair to switch things around when you're moving back the way you came. That is just an insult to people with vision loss.
favorites and last
I have this bugs too.
When i double tap on person in favorites list or last call, phone is calling to another person.
Sometimes when I try select "more info" options, the phone is calling to other person and not showing number details.
I have iPhone SE 2020 with 15.4.1 IOs version.
Just encountered the recents focus issue
I just encountered the phone recents focus issue. I put focus on a number, double-tapped, and it dialed the next number down the list instead.
I've seen a similar issue with the task switcher, which I use much more often. I swipe left or right to an app I'd like to close, 3-finger swipe up to close it, and then discover that I have closed a different app entirely. I'm unsure when I first encountered this problem, but it has been around for a long time.
I believe I've seen a similar focus issue when entering my passcode after a reboot. I have typing mode set to Touch Typing. I hear the correct digit before I lift my finger, but sometimes get an incorrect passcode.
Finally, there is a similar issue in the Music app when viewing albums. With VoiceOver focus on some album in the list, VoiceOver will describe the image for some other nearby album. Of all the issues I've listed, this one is very consistent. I can reproduce it every time I open the Music app. And on a related note, I have Describe Images turned off for the Music app, yet VoiceOver consistently ignores this setting and describes the wrong album image anyway.
I have an iPhone SE 2020 with latest iOS.
Not ex[periencing these bugs
I do not experience these. I am beta testing iOS Sixteen, and if I find to suddenly experience these bugs, I’ll report them!
A continuing annoying pesky bug.
So you get a message and read it on the lock screen. Then when you unlock your phone, the Messages app still says there are unread messages. So my work-around is just to have Sirie read the message.
not experiencing these bugs
Find my app is fully accessible with voiceover. Granted its interface has a curve to it but, it is accessible. I haven't really encountered some of the other bugs you mentioned.
I respectfully disagree that…
I respectfully disagree that the find my app is accessible. At best, it is usable but, like the home app, which is being replaced, VoiceOver doesn't act in a predictable way as in most other applications.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but the find my app does require locating specific buttons on the screen rather than using the flick gesture to go through items?
If this is the case, it could be argued that those who have limited input control, IE forward, backward, double tap and escape, will find such apps more frustrating than others such as mail etc.
Considering the home app is on the way out, I wonder if the same applies to the find my app and hence apple not bothering to take a look at the somewhat inconsistent behaviours of VoiceOver in each.
Favorites and Recents bug becoming more of an issue
I have recently started experiencing the focus issue as well and am finding it quite embarrassing since I have called various people by mistake and then probably sounded rather confused and had to apologize etc. Even if I swipe up and go to "more info" it has also happened that the phone just started calling a random number on the recents screen for example. I will be trying the long press method that has been suggested above to see if that works. This is not just something I feel that is an annoying bug, but I feel it is rather important to be able to call the correct number reliably from one's phone on a regular basis.