EchoVision by Agiga.ai

By kevinchao89, 4 October, 2024

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Assistive Technology

I first saw EchoVision by Agiga at Vista Center Ignite Accessibility Entrepreneur Pitch Competition last month. It was hard for the AGI to hear me and for me to hear the descriptions and Be My Eyes in the noisy exhibit hall. Based on my interview with Blind Abilities, Huasongcm, CTO at Agiga reached out to Jeff and wanted to chat, where Jeff from Blind Abilities asked if I would like to be on it, where I agreed, but wanted to first examine it better at my roofttop farm that is quieter and allowed me more time with the glasses.

I was even more impressed than I was initially, as the scene descriptions via voice and Be My Eyes volunteer were great, but:

User Experience

  • Agiga added follow-up to EchoVision, so it's possible to get more specific context/details about a scene, which was a feature request I had last month and and it's live in the prototype.
  • Tap with one-finger on right-side towards front of glasses to get a scene description without asking, which is what i wish Meta Ray-Bans would do. There is a good amount of context/details to scene descriptions, which is made for blind people.
  • It's responsive, latency is low, voice is somewhat natural human sounding, and speech rate can be increased. I tested the speech rate at 1.5x.
  • I was able to call Be My Eyes and AIRA, where I got human description of a card no deets and scene.
  • Holding down with 2-fingers on right side will cancel Be My Eyes or hang-up and return to main menu, where I heard I could use Google Lookout by saying: "Hello Agiga, Lookout", which goes into explore mode reading text and identifying objects real-time. It was able to identify different objects, including stairs, plant, read text on credit/debit card, and lottery ticket.
  • I tried to have Lookout identify US currency, but it wanted to read the text on the bill instead. No worries though, a quick tap on the right-side did a quick scene description, where it described I was holding a $20.
  • The form factor are wrap-around sun glasses, which blocks sun for those of us with peripheral eye-sight and light sensitivity, and is more secure as it partially wraps around the back of my head and doesn't slide down my nose like Meta Ray-Bans.
  • I feel it has the features and functionality of Envision AI Glasses, but even better form factor than Meta Ray-Bans. I look forward to pre-ordering on October 11!

Feature Request

  • I was trying to have it describe people, but it said it couldn't describe faces, but when Huasongc tested it at home with his wife, it could. Huasongc thought Be My Ai could, so we tried it and it can, so they'll work on people descriptions.
  • I also tried something no AI could do, which was ask about next bus/train departures via Transit. Agiga is going to see if TransitApp has an API.

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Comments

By The blind AI on Thursday, October 10, 2024 - 21:12

So these are glasses? Connected to an app? Which platform, you mention Google, so Android?

Any idea on price – are we looking at the 9X Envision over Ray-Ban levels or something else? And is the any sort of monthly hit to? The late unlamented Seleste glasses had a good idea there…

Lottie

By The blind AI on Thursday, October 10, 2024 - 21:12

The first thing I hear is a bible quote. then there's a link to the echo Vision page, a statement that there mission is AGI and an order oo...page.

I don't think it is AGI we can ordder? The page scared me enough to not want to click on any of the links!

By Gokul on Thursday, October 10, 2024 - 21:12

Anything like that wherein they've demonstrated these in some convension or something?

By Tara on Thursday, October 10, 2024 - 21:12

Hi all,
No bible quote when I clicked on the site. It was just a standard website for smart glasses. I think I'll wait for the Meta-ReyBans to get better. Hopefully they'll have scene descriptions as I'm walking along. The EchoVision are a bit expensive.

By The blind AI on Thursday, October 10, 2024 - 21:12

There's an image, it says somehting about an epistle. The AGI things is still there though...

By mr grieves on Thursday, October 10, 2024 - 21:12

From the web site: presale price is 449 usd listing price is 599 usd

Considering the pre-order price is only a little more than the Meta Ray-bans and these are specialist tech I'd say that's not expensive. I can't see anything about a subscription either - it says future updates are free.

They seem to have come a bit out of the blue, though. If they are legit then I'd like to know more at least.

By Tara on Thursday, October 10, 2024 - 21:12

Yeah, and I like the scene description like the seleste glasses. But the Meta Ray-bans are still cheaper at £299. The EchoVision are still more appealing than the Seleste because they don't seem to have a monthly subscription. I'll be watching this space closely.

By Gokul on Thursday, October 10, 2024 - 21:12

Is that the website offers too little info. How's anyone supposed to decide whether or not to preorder based on this much info? At least if there were some demo...

By kevinchao89 on Thursday, October 10, 2024 - 21:12

I've pre-ordered using this link: https://shop.agiga.ai/

It's exciting and wonderful times in the smart glasses space closing the accessibility and inclusion gap for us blind people!

By Travis Roth on Thursday, October 10, 2024 - 21:12

The details seem a bit sparse? I am especially both surprised and skeptical of no mention of a subscription. Only the big guys like Meta can afford to run these big server farms that power the LLMs without a direct cash infusion.
Also, being a bit picky here: the FAQ page can't decide if they're shipping in Q2 2024 (already passed) or sometime in 2025. Clear communication is important for trying to crowdsource a new product like this.

By The blind AI on Thursday, October 10, 2024 - 21:12

API costs for models like GPT4 have reduced 1000 fold over the past two years. There is still a cost and I am worried by a business that sells a product for a one-off price when they are taking on an open-ended, unknown and unknowable cost.

Once you get these glasses, every time you use a feature that requires an API call it can cost money.

By Rich on Thursday, October 17, 2024 - 21:12

As nice as this product sounds, I do have concerns.
They have a lot of potential, but how do we know they won't start making promises they can't keep? A lot of companies that make blindness specific products tend to do this.
Look at Seleste. If you remember when people first started hearing about them, one of their major selling points was hardware upgrades.
Within the past month or so, users of the glasses were notified that hardware upgrades won't be coming.
I've used Agiga's WhatsApp calling service with the Meta glasses, and it works well.
Depending on the operating system powering this product, the potential to access the most popular apps hands free would be nice.
I have the Envision Glasses since they were purchased for me by the state, and although they're good at what they do, the problem is that they're running on hardware that isn't officially supported by the manufacturer.
Envision says they have a lot of units in stock, but how much is a lot? What happens when devices start having hardware issues?
When people are spending up to $3500 on a product, those are things that need to be taken into consideration.
Finally, a question. Do the glasses have the ability to constantly look for things like the Seleste glasses?
Example, I want it to read room numbers as I walk along a hallway.
Edit, I forgot to mention subscriptions.
While nothing is saying they will do a subscription, I know it's a possibility.
Since I received my Envision Glasses before they started the subscription plans, all I had to do was request the purchase invoice from the state and send my glasses serial number and they activated the lifetime subscription.
Agiga could choose to do something similar if they decide to make this product subscription based, but we don't know when or if that will happen.

By Rich on Thursday, October 17, 2024 - 21:12

I liked the interview.
I'm considering pre-ordering them next week when I get paid. I had to shell out a bunch of money for an expense this week so I have to be careful until next Wednesday.
It's nice that people who pre-order won't have to worry about the subscription and that it won't be required to access the basic functions.

By Brad on Thursday, October 17, 2024 - 21:12

I don't think maps are a thing they want to add to the glasses but i sent them a message asking so we'll see what they say.

There were some issues though. 1. Their email sent back an error email so I had to use their form.

2. Their form didn't refresh when I sent the message, there was a thanks message at the bottom of the page, I only found it because I know how websites work in t that way, and my info was still filled in, which shouldn't happen.

I don't think these are for me but for those buying these, have fun :)

By The blind AI on Thursday, October 17, 2024 - 21:12

I'm just not sure a startup doing both the hardware and software is what I want or what we, as a community, need. I was an early adopter of the Seleste glasses - it was not a great experience. Whereas the Meta Ray-Ban smart glasses I got at the same time have gotten better and better with every passing month.

These things are going to be our eyes! They need to be as good as they possibly can - if there isn't the money to develop them just for us, making a product on a product is a good strategy.

The Meta Ray-Ban glasses are, for me, almost perfect. The final thing I have on iPhone that I want on them is the quick view feature from Seeing AI - where it is live, says whatever the camera is pointing at.

I hope I am completely wrong about these glasses.

By Brad on Thursday, October 17, 2024 - 21:12

I wonder what happened to them...

The guy was nice enough to give me a refund but did want me to ship another pare of glasses to another house in the UK, he was willing to pay the costs but I told him no. That was a really bad thing to ask a user of your product, if he offered to pay me I might have thought about it but he was just willing to pay the shipping costs.

Also I opened the box,, I think it was my pare that had been sent to me, and the speaker design was just bad, you had one speaker on one arm and the other had to be atached, I think, and there was no app. You had to wait for a testflight invite.

I'm sure the guy had/has good intentions and if they come to site village next year, i'll check them out again but I highly doubt I'd buy from them again.

By Gokul on Thursday, October 17, 2024 - 21:12

It'd have been more, let's say, convincing if it were an actual demonstration and not an interview...

By Brad on Thursday, October 17, 2024 - 21:12

Show me what your products best features are, don't just tell me.

Hipe me up, make me want to buy this thing.

By Falco on Thursday, October 24, 2024 - 21:12

Hi,

Last week I sent an email to the people behind Agiga to inquire about which languages the Echovision would support. In their reply, I read the following:
"We are currently evaluating EU regulations, and at this stage, we may limit our initial shipments to the US and support English as the1st language."

By Huasong on Thursday, October 24, 2024 - 21:12

Hi everyone,

My name is Huasong, and I’m the cofounder of AGIGA. I want to thank all of you for your interest, comments, concerns, and critiques, and a special thanks to those who have preordered or sent feedback directly. Your insights are incredibly valuable to us.

While we don’t have answers to all concerns yet, we’ve shared more information like hardware specifications and videos. Please continue sharing your thoughts and feel free to message me directly for any feedback!

By Gokul on Thursday, October 24, 2024 - 21:12

I checked the website again but couldn't find anything. Would be great if any links can be shared here.

By Ash Rein on Saturday, March 8, 2025 - 21:12

Any updates on this? What are the specs? For example, battery life? Camera?

By Ash Rein on Saturday, March 8, 2025 - 21:12

The part where it’s hard to hear worries me. I’m at airports, train stations, malls, theatres, parks, etc. These places can get loud. If I can’t hear the ai, if it can’t hear me, if the be my eyes helper can’t hear me, what’s the point?

By Brian on Saturday, March 8, 2025 - 21:12

So, the Meta smart glasses has this adaptive volume feature, where if you are in a noisy environment, the volume will auto adjust to accommodate. Maybe these glasses can incorporate something like that as well?

By Ash Rein on Saturday, March 8, 2025 - 21:12

I really would like to try these out. I would even like to pre-order them. But there’s not enough to go on. I don’t know when they’re releasing, I don’t know what the audio sounds like. I don’t know what the microphone quality is. I want to like this. I just don’t know how to.

By Ash Rein on Saturday, March 8, 2025 - 21:12

Yes, the website is still active. And apparently you can make a $99 pre-order till March 10. And they’re gonna be at the latest C-SPAN show in Los Angeles.

By Karina Velazquez on Thursday, March 13, 2025 - 21:12

Hi guys, I'm thrill with the idea of having a pair of rayband meta glasses, but guess what? no matter what people say, they are not available in mexic as well as none of these werables.
My question for these ones is, are they available in Spanish? meta glasses are, but can't buy them in my country.

Regards.

By Ash Rein on Tuesday, March 18, 2025 - 21:12

Really bothers me that this only has a 13 megapixel camera. I don’t know that it’s going to be as worthwhile as people are hoping. The other thing that bothers me is that they haven’t really been much in the way of updates for the past few months. There was some visibility at the most recent tradeshow in Anaheim. But people only disgusted in passing.

By Huasong on Tuesday, March 18, 2025 - 21:12

Hi everyone,

We appreciate the ongoing discussion and feedback around EchoVision! I wanted to take a moment to address some concerns and provide an update.

Stay Updated – We invite you to check out our website (echovision.agiga.ai) for the latest information. Also, if you haven’t already, please subscribe to our newsletter (echovision.agiga.ai/#newsletter). We send out updates at least once per month to keep our community informed.

Direct Questions & Requests – If you have specific questions or requests, feel free to email us at [email protected]. I, as the CTO, personally make sure that inquiries are answered.

CSUN Demos & Next Steps – We had a great opportunity to demo the latest hardware and software integration at CSUN 2025, where we received very positive feedback on features like detailed people descriptions, live AI assistance, and word-by-word OCR reading. Of course, we also received valuable feature requests and suggestions, which we’re now back to work on!

We’ll be sharing more demo videos soon, and we appreciate your patience as we continue refining EchoVision. Your input helps us shape the best experience possible, and we welcome constructive feedback.

Looking forward to keeping the conversation going!

Best,
Huasong
CTO, AGIGA

By Ash Rein on Wednesday, March 26, 2025 - 14:12

So there’s a video on YouTube detailing the echo vision glasses, and their overall use. I like it because it demonstrates a lot of the way we can use these devices. Moreover, they actually did do an Ira demonstration and how the representatives can see what the users going to be looking at through the glasses.

These things don’t seem to be perfect. And that’s OK. I like their honesty and like they’re willingness to be brave and show us how they might work in the real world. I’m thinking I might pre-order one.

https://youtu.be/5raHFE58RpA?si=FzxjKG9jZSzJ4hpN

By CrazyEyez on Thursday, March 27, 2025 - 19:12

I'm thinking of pre-ordering.
They have a lot of features that my metas don't.
The people description and face recognition are great features.
I also like the idea of live scene description.
OCR would be useful to me as well.
They aren't perfect, but the developer seems to be receptive to feedback from the community, and the price is reasonable when compared to other blindness products.
There is a 30 day refund policy so if they go the way my celeste disaster turned out, I can send them back.
In any case, we have options to choose from with a lot of potential that aren't thousands of dollars.

By Ash Rein on Friday, March 28, 2025 - 14:12

I’m going to wait for full release. I don’t mind paint full price if it ends up being awesome. They seem to have a good development and design culture. I just want to hold them in my hands and see how they feel first