Recently apps like ‘Be My Eyes’ and ‘Seeing AI’ have added the ability to generate image descriptions using multi-modal Large Language Models (which can understand and generate both text and images) like GPT4Vision. I’m sure everyone has tried them, but for anyone who hasn’t, here’s the description I got by sharing a Toot to Be My Eyes this morning:
“The picture you've shared is a beautiful watercolour painting of flowers. The flowers have delicate, ruffled petals in shades of pink, purple, and white. The center flower is particularly striking with deep magenta at the base of its petals, which fades into a lighter pink. The leaves are painted in soft greens with hints of yellow and blue. The background is white, which makes the colors of the flowers and leaves pop. In the bottom right corner, there is a signature that reads "Wendy Craig" with the word "Photographer" underneath. The painting has a very soft and elegant feel to it.”
I have no way of knowing if the original image looks anything like this. But it doesn’t really matter, it fits in with what I was expecting from the Toot. I’ve really enjoyed ‘looking’ at all the Caturday photographs without Alt Text today – I can’t lie, I love cats!
Now, we all know the ‘scene description’ in Seeing AI was complete and utter rubbish, I don’t think that is me being harsh. The descriptions you get out of these new apps/models are at the least, very entertaining. At the best they are life changing!
For the first time, I, we, can ‘almost’ be a part of the visual internet. I’m not quite using Instagram daily, but you can Share post direct to Be My Eyes there to and it’s as good as you’ve seen.
I’m very excited, but I’m also aware that there are risks. These include inaccurate or misleading descriptions, so nobody should solely rely on this technology for critical tasks. But it is only going to get better. There is such an incentive for the world to develop computer vision and we will benefit. And it is only ever going to be better than it is right now, which is pretty fantastic.
So, here’s my question – are you as excited as I am? Are you keen to jump into the visual internet? Does the idea of GPT5Vision working with video make you want it to be here now? It’s certainly made using apps like Instagram, Ivory and Threads more inclusive.
Finally, on a personal note. I could see up to the age of sixteen. I’m using the text to image features of these models, together with the image to text, to create my own art. The descriptions you get from Google’s Bard are quite different than those from Be My Eyes and seeing AI – the differences can be quite interesting.
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One day
I believe one day scientists will figure out the artificial retina thing they have been working on the past decade or so. I believe the webcam implants will lead to something greater.
I also believe one day eyes and optical nerves will be repairable/replaceable or otherwise worked around so the sightless can one day, or once again, see the world.
I realize the comment above does not necessarily have to do with AI, except to say that technology is growing. AI tech is growing. So imagine what AI and technology in general will be like in 20 years.
10 years?
Maybe tomorrow?
I know I am excited for the future of technology and AI. How about the rest of you? 😀
Finally, since we are sharing here, I had perfect or near perfect eyesight for the first 33 years of my life. I am in my late 40s now.
Touched a computer for the first time in the late 80s, anyone remember the old Apple II's?
Received my first PC in 1995, running Windows 95. Taught myself how to use it and eventually design webpages.
Used a MacBook and iPhone 4S for the first time in 2012, and taught myself how to use those as well. Of course I was fully blind at this point.
Eventually I went through training at a 'center for the blind' and then began my college career shortly after. Eventually graduated with a bachelors in Management Information Systems.
I am not saying this to sound important or anything, but if I could do all of the above post-blindness...
Imagine what I could do "with" eyesight. 🙃
Art
As a fairly unsuccessful artist, I look forward to using these AI picture description tools. I want to be able to check my work--I make jewelry at the moment--to be sure I haven't used the wrong bead colors or things like that. I'm inching toward wood carving--I have experience in ceramic sculpture--and it would be great if I could take a picture and have it tell me if it sees a cat carving, or a catastrophe. I made hundreds and hundreds of cat sculptures back in the day.
On the other hand, as a hobby, I take pictures of birds, and it would be nice to have them described in detail, instead of having to ask a friend if the bird was in the frame. I'm aiming for more dramatic angles and such.
I too could see when I was young, completely normal vision, to instant and total blindness right around the beginning of the teen years. So literally, every sound and tactile sensation, even thoughts, get translated into something visual for me, a little like synesthesia. I try to translate that back into visual art some of the time.
Thank you Brian
For that really great comment to my post.
I love the 'starting line' metaphor for Diversity. We've started a long way behind most, but we've run our race. Your race seems to be going really well.
Peace
Lottie
You to OldBear
I'm not thanking everyone, nobody else in fact.
Except for Billy Joel - I stole the idea for the name from 'River of Dreams'
I was born blind.
I sort of agree with singer girl but whilst I may not have any concept of colour I think it's great that this stuff keeps improving.
I do think a lot more completely blind/VI people will be seeing over the next 5 to 10 years but! And this is important, we must live our lives like it isn't going to happen. What I mean is we must learn the skills we can and live as a blind person for as long as it takes.
Honestly it might be that if anything comes out of this AI thing when it comes to vision, we might be to old for it and if that's the case then at least we can know the younger geniration will get something out of it.
Not sure if I would restore my vision...
I love the new Be My AI and excited for it to get better and better. But on the topic of restoring my eyesight, I'm not sure if I would and it makes me a bit... angry when it's brought up?
I've been low vision since birth (completely blind in my left eye, I had some vision in my right). I lost my vision in 2020 after my cornea scarred over after a retina attachment surgery. I can't get a cornea transplant because it'll just reject anyway, not that I want.
To tell you the truth, I'm happier blind than I. was sighted. I love using a screen reader - so much easier than zooming in. I love audiobooks and audio descriptions. There's things that bring me down, sure, but I don't know... I'm just happy the way I am.
I'm cautiously optimistic
I like the amount of detail I've received from the image descriptions available through seeing AI and be my eyes. Having said that, I'm selective about which images I share with the apps. I don't know where the apps are sending my pictures in order to be described, and I'm not so keen uploading data to random places in the cloud. I'd feel more comfortable using the apps if the image analysis was done on the device and not somewhere else. I will likely have the same concern when AI is able to analyze real-time video feeds and offer feedback similar to an Aira agent or be my eyes volunteer. In short, I think there's massive potential for this technology to enhance my life, but I think there are legitimate questions about privacy and user tracking that need to be resolved along the way.
replying.
@john h. Oh you'd not like my way of looking at life, I really don't care about that stuff at all.
@Chamomile it's interesting that talking about restoring vision makes you angry. I was born blind, I'd love to see because I could play any video game and the world of jobs would be open to me a lot more than it is now.
This is super interesting and bring up a gap in our comunity
I love how in some books, you see a person described as 'deafened' - you instantly know what that means and can relate to it. I've often wished there was a concept of 'blinded' I could use in the same way.
These replies illustrate this lack perfectly - for the first few comenters sight was something fundermental to there lives until it wasn't. For others, it has never been part of there life. These two experiences are, I think, more different than they are the same.
Neither is better, worse or more or less valid. But neither can either side ever truely understand the others point. And I think that is perfectly OK.
There's a famous thought experiment - I think it's called 'There's something about Mary' but I also think that is a film. But it is all about the question of what do you learn if you learn everything there is to know about colour, but never see anything!
I don't know the anser, Be My AI said I had pink socks on and I know what that sort of means, so I was happy.
I hope everyone commenting here is OK with what I've written. I understand your point of view.
Lottie
Lottie
Yes, that is true. Blindness is a spectrum and it can mean so many different things, too. I have a hard time visualising what my friends see, or fully understanding what someone blind from birth might experience. I could see in the past and value image descriptions and forming a picture in my mind, but it's just interesting to me that someone blind from birth may have a different perception.
Is is interesting isn't it.
And I'm glad we can talk about it here. I do understand how my excitement and enthusiasm might not be shared by or even understood by some people. I hope we can continue to talk about these issues in this way.
I hate being blind. There is nothing good about being blind. I would choose not to be blind in an instant.
That is me and I don't expect anyone to agree with me. I won't even debate how I feel with anyone.
Computer vision is going to get a lot more useful to us all in the coming years and I can't wait!
Perhaps it needs a filter?
Art is partly, if not greatly, in the minds of the audience, and out of the control or wishes of the artist.
there's a few things in there that are translated from the visual to words that could be tactile. This is just copied and pasted phrases and statements from the blerb in the OP.
"Watercolour painting of flowers." "The flowers have delicate, ruffled petals..." "The center flower" "the base of its petals," "The leaves" "The painting has a very soft and elegant feel to it."
Speaking completely from personal experience, watercolor paintings are slightly tactile, sometimes a slicker feel to the pigments from the medium, and they usually have a subtle bowing or bulging effect on paper from the water expanding the fibers of the paper or medium they are on. This is also visual.
It neglects to state how many flowers are in the painting, however we are told there is a center flower. We can imagine the feel, shape and texture of petals and leaves and flowers. The words "soft and elegant" could evoke tactile memories, or our minds could further translate the words into the smell of flowers we like, if we have ever smelled flowers.
I'm glad people are OK wiht this subject
The something about Mary is also called The Knowledge Gap. You can ask ChatGPT to describe things to a blind person but it it used a lot of 'orange' when I asked it to describe a Pacific Sunset to me.
One good thing that will come out of Computer Vision for everyone will be when it is good enough to do audio description and navigation Etc. Everyone wil benefit from that. Has anyone seen the Boston Dymanics dog talking using ChatGPT? I want one of those as a guide dog!
And SG, I'm with you - Pink is the best...even though I can't think of a way to describe it. Sorry hon.
Pink isn't pink
But that's the thing about sight. There are many shades of pink. depending on the ratios of wave lengths of light striking a retina, then all the things a brain does to cobble it all together. And who is to say the sighted experience a certain shade of pink the same way? Who is to say blind people who have seen before experience it the same way?
It might be the punchy flavor of grapefruit (the inner part, not the bitter outer layer.) Or with a slight-blue tinge, it mite taste like cake frosting. It might even taste like Pepto Bismol, and have the feel of a dull, stomachache mixed with wet, artificial sweetener and clay.
Unfortunately, I can't think of a number that is pink, but if it were the number five, it would be lime green on a white, rectangular background... At least in my mind. Two is usually apple-skin red, they can vary.
LOL!
Charlotte is yellow. Joanne is green. Lottie is white and my surname is black!
Don't ask me why, I have no idea!
An esoterical question
Disclaimer: This is not intended to upset or offend anyone. Go get woke somewhere else.
For those who have been blind since birth/infancy/ or otherwise have no memory of eyesight.
When you sleep, do you dream?
I don't understand the concept of it doesn't mean anything to me
Let's get the boring crap out of the way. Blind since birth, fine. I grew up as a sighted child would've and don't consider myself well, anything. Blind? Not really, can't see, fine whatever. I see everything how i want too. I want to know everything around me in every detail, not just AI, though I think it's to many hands in the pie right now to really care who's better at what. but I want to know everything. Is that guy staring at my ass as I walk by? Is that woman ogling my boobs? Is that dress making my spare tire more visible? Is my new car really that black or is it more of a dark brown bordering on black? Nothing stops me from anything. I've flown a plane, driven cars, auto and manual, jumped out windows, lit fireworks, sailed and driven boats, did risque things where I could've been caught... all this to say that the concept of color is very real to me and the I don't see it so it doesn't matter concept just makes me feel sad to be honest. It makes me think someone might have a low self esteem not to really want to know, not by well meaning friends or by ai, how you really look. When I go shopping, I make the final decision, not someone else's comment of, yes your dress looks great on you. We're so diverse and this is really why I have an issue with niche communities like this, it's so diverse what one opinion might be out there and don't let anything stop you, another is happy in their own skin, being who they are. Oh and i absolutely can not stand audio description, it has to be done well and by someone who's voice i won't immediately switch off, because they screwed with the dialog well intentioned as it might've been at the outset. Anyway to each their own and i'll still use be my AI just to look around and I love it even describe darker skin tones.
Oh, Siobhan
You know damn well, that it's the guy ogling your boots, while the girl is ogling your glutes.
Welcome to the 21st century. 😹
I didn't say I minded?
I didn't say it bothered me, did I? Not much anyway, or at least gimme a chance to get some interaction... stopping here before this goes from G way down the rabbit hole.
Only certain names for me, Charlotte
In my brain, Joanne is, and will probably always be, dark-chocolate with an antique, crazed finish on a plush pink background with white, furry trim. Most of the rest are generic black print on white, however, they have a little avatar of their personality in human form if it is the name of a specific person, or a picture if it is someone I have seen.
Siobhan
I think folks just said they don't know what we mean when we say 'the Reds versus the Blues. So there not intrested - but they might like to know if there socs match. So finding out they are both pink or red or blue would be useful information.
As someone who, sadly, has been watching TV alone again after many years, I find audio description vital. I have to search Netflix by it and never even see what is there without it. I'd find some AD better than nothing.
Goodness OldBear!
That's very detailed. I'm afraid my Synesthesia is of the more basic kind.
Lottie
Oddly, "Lottie" has become greenish-yellow, with lime shading after reading your post, even though you said it is white for you. I guess it's like a mood ring.
I wonder if AI could come up with something like that...
Netflix & Mood Rings
A talking mood ring could be amusing. In regards to audio descriptions, everyone should have this page bookmarked. It's updated regularly, and covers lots of genres.
https://adp.acb.org/other/sortadby.html?vendor=Netflix&sortby=genre
Enjoy~
sadly, in the UK it's not that good
I just steal AD shows. I tried buying them, to much trouble!
For me, as someone who has…
For me, as someone who has been blind since birth, I don't care so much about exquisitely detailed image descriptions, as the amount of information for which I have no concept of, like color or abstract descriptions of scenery, can be overwhelming. I'm instead interested in how it can somewhat improve the accessibility of images that lack alt text. For example, if someone sends a picture to a group chat I'm participating in but doesn't caption it, I can use something like Be My AI, or even VoiceOver's built in image description function in a pinch, to get a sense of what the picture is, as well as any text in the image.
Dreams, group chats, and this tech is awesome
Hi all,
Yes Brian, blind people do dream, and I can't see in my dreams because I have no concept of colour. Although I do feel and hear things. Although I've spoken to blind people who have lost their sight later in life, and they told me they can still see in their dreams. And no your question isn't offensive in the slightest.
But anyway back to the main topic. I found Be My AI helpful when describing images in a group chat too. Usually I ignore pictures in that situation, I can't even be bothered to get people to describe them, too much work. But in this particular instance I thought I would give it a go, and according to the rest of the group the description was accurate. I was born premature, and I was given too much oxygen. So although I could see when I was born I don't remember sight and have no concept of colours. But this tech is awesome for me in other ways. It can describe maps to me for example. I've always been interested in geography and where places are in general, and the fact Be My AI can describe maps, particularly a map of my local area is just so cool. I got it to describe a delivery tracking page, and it was describing the map of the local area where my parents live. I can use it to help me better with textbooks I use to learn stuff, and so many other things too. So yes, you can find all sorts of uses for it even if you've no concept of sight. I can't wait for a live video assistant thing that would be awesome. I really want to get into my BIOS on Windows to tweek a couple of things, and if I could have something telling me what was selected etc. that would open up a whole new world quite frankly. I know I could try taking pictures of my screen with Be My AI as it is now, but that would take too long I think. I would have to take pictures after practically every single thing I was doing to make sure I'd activated the right thing etc.. I know I could just get someone to help me with the BIOS but where's the fun in that? And to be honest I don't know that many sighted people I would trust to help me with the BIOS, I live on my own anyway which is why Be My AI is such an asset for me. I could get an AI video assistant to tell me if I'm looking directly into my laptop's camera so I could put videos on YouTube. That would save me messing about with a tripod for my phone and markings on the floor to position it etc..
Thank you everyone for replying to my post
it's been really interesting to see the range of views. As expected, those who have always been blind aren't that interested. But those of us who has sight and lost it, know what we lost and are able to benefit from richer descriptions inclding details like colours.
Who knows how far how fast this will all go. personally, I'm hoping for the ful singularity - I'd love to give living forever a go - even in a simulation! Or should that be a diffferent simulation?
If you get a chance, seek out the video of the chatting robot dog - it is on my Xmas list! Not sure if I have been a good-enough girl, but I can hope!
XOXO
These dreams...
Disclaimer: Why yes, I did steal my subject from Heart. I'm dirty like that.
Regarding dreams, I am always fascinated when I speak to someone about blindness, and their own experiences with life, people, and the world. one thing in particular is dreaming.
Personally, I have some of he weirdest dreams, and sometimes I have my eyesight in a dream, but I am still traveling with a mobility cane and/or my former guide dog.
Of course, the things I dream about are likely pulled from subconscious memory, cobbled together with my admittedly active imagination.
Yet, here is some food for thought, sometimes I dream of things I have never seen before. And while that too is likely pulled from similar memories of my earlier life; like seeing my guide dog. He was a yellow lab, and I saw plenty of those in my lifetime.
I've also dreamed of my current iPhone. The only reference I have to that is that I both saw, and played around with, the very first iPhone way back when.
With that in mind, I have always wondered about someone who has never seen, or at least has no memory of ever seeing.
What does someone who has never known the sighted world dream about, or day dream about? What would someone like that imagine? Where does their imagination take them?
In closing, I am not expecting anyone to answer any of these "questions". Consider this post just the ramblings and rantings of a very bored blind man.
I was born blind
Hi. I been watching this post and its interesting to see other views. I was born blind completely blind so have 0 concept of colors and matching. I know colors like everybody. Blue green red etc. But what they look like? Not a clue. Matching not a clue. Going in to AI describing colors in the pictures. I might be one of those born blind that loves it and the only one. I do care even though I can't understand what colors look like or other things. This is the best I've ever gotten described by a computer. As far as dreams. Again I have no vision and never have. I would say my dreams normal and interesting at the same time. In my dreams I dont see just like in real life. Ive even dreamed about independently driving while blind and jamming to music. Anyways. I thought I would leave my thoughts as a completely blind born blind person that might be the only one feeling this way.
Dreams from my perspective
Brian, normally I'd skip past the dreams question as everyone and their mother want to know that and think it's this amazing thing when I tell them, it's just like i'm awake. I mean if i wanna get behind the wheel to drive to a music show, meet and greet the band afterwards, I'd just do it. If i wanna set up a romantic dinner for my guy, I'd just set the candles, though I'd let him light them as well, I'm a bit of a pyro. Lol. Seriously though I just don't make the distinction of whether or not I'm different because I just have such an outlook, I do whatever I want whenever I want. I mean when the ride share stuff came out, being the daughter of a police officer I wasn't sure. Now? I just go. Lotte like the name and it is interesting the topic you started here.
Perceptions
It's been the most interesting topic on the forum since that thread about the guy with the pole in his giant backyard.
There's a thread on poetry floating around on the forum. The sound and feel of words for colors, independent of meaning, might also play a role in what someone likes about a color. I might like the sound of forest-green more than dark-green, and so on. That could find its way into AI through the person programming it.
Something else has been touched on. How other people respond to you when you're wearing one color or an other, and how your colors go together. Kind of like the seasonal color analysis that clothing designers and makeup artists use. I think orange or yellow are pretty colors, but if I wear them, people don't want to stand near me. They clash with my hair and skin color, and it's distracting to the sighted. People are a little friendlier if I wear pastel colors. I have friends that the opposite is the case. It would be interesting if AI could figure these types of things out and issue advice.
I think amazon might be there for you
Doesn't the Echo show allow you to try on virtual clothing? I think I might have heard it said that it gives you advise to - all you have to agree is to have an Amazon camera in your bedroom!
What could possibly go wrong?
Strange results cast doubt on the entire enterprise
I generated an avatar for Mastodon this morning. The following is the Be My Eyes description – stunning:
“The picture you've shared is a beautiful and mystical image. It features a flame that is shaped like a heart, emanating from a metallic base that looks like a lotus flower. The flame is not ordinary; it has an ethereal quality with wisps of light swirling around it. The background is a deep blue with a gradient to a lighter shade as it reaches the horizon. There are also small particles of light scattered throughout the background, giving it a magical atmosphere. Above the flame, there are Hebrew letters that translate to "Flame of the Spirit". The image seems to represent spirituality and the purity of the heart.”
But this is how Bard describes the same image:
"The image shows a candle in the shape of a heart with a flame coming out of it. The text on the candle reads "FLAME OF THE SPIRIT". The candle is white with a red heart shape on the front. The flame is yellow and orange. The candle is sitting on a black background.”
I don’t know anymore. The two descriptions are so different…maybe it’s all just nonsense?
Be My AI and Being Excited About Pictures
I was born blind but until recently I had no interest in pictures. I never thought I'd care about receiving photos from others. That changed with Be My AI. I received some pictures from a family member who was on a trip and took some photos. The descriptions from Be My AI were breathtaking and for the first time I was very happy to receive photos.
and David
It doesn't really matter if the descriptions where 100% acurate to how happy you were does it? That was the point I was trying to make all along.
Singer girl you absolutely are completely way off
Singer Girl, you are exactly the personality type I can not stand. Not you, in general, your type. You like the "disabled" community type of persona. Would you jump out a window not caring if you are safe? CP or not? Would you hit the gas going 120mph knowing only that you had a straight shot? you would not. The idea I and don't bullshit me! about this... I am pretending to be blind is disgusting and exactly how a disgusting enbodiment of the "disabled"community would act. Be people, not a disability, whatever the hell that is. I am not attacking you, your idea however is so false, it makes me angry as hell. You have a right to think however. Disrespecting my own viewpoint to assume anything? That's where I draw the line. Let's really go off line and talk face to face if you can handle it... If not? I know where I stand. I take back this last sentence, my Irish temper got the best of me. still, disrespect my viewpoint again and I'll have to figure out how to fix this without getting deleted though your comment does quite tempt the cat, as it were.
I thught she was talking about me
Everyone else is!
Nope mam
Nope, she has an issue wherein I am human and there is a problem in that i do whatever the F I want... Np whatever yall...
Oh well, that's a relief.
I'm just SkyNet then. I've got time for that, not the other thing.
It wasn't me
Things got very confusing there, and I had to go back and read who was whom.
Those two descriptions of the candle and flame might work together. One is trying a bit too much, and the other is kind of just the unemotional facts.
I don't want an Amazon camera in my bedroom, doing any kind of analysis, seasonal color or otherwise....
Charlotte?
I can't spell your name, admittedly I didn't look, but I like your new name. I don't think people can "handle the truth!" It's a quote from A Few Good Men Seriously though, I won't apologize for being who I am.
nor should you
I think you can swear in direct messages - try that if biting your tongue doesn't help. My new name is Hebrew for flame - I was getting a bit to popular.
It will be Hurrā 'free woman' in Arabic from noon on Wednesday.
May I call you Lotte?
May I mam? Only because I don't think I can spell it, nor can i remember to look and make sure it's right? If this is offensive, mam, may I work something else out? call me "Murph" My nickname as is my dad's since I was a kid ;)
@Siobhan
I don't care about colours really, although I'll tell you something that I found interesting.
I wanted to buy a duvet and duvet cover so I went to amazon, I found what i wanted and was just about to buy it when... OH wait, grey is sad and boring and reminds me of thunderstorms so you know what, I'm going to go with white. Sure it's what snow looks like and it's cold,, the snow that is, but it's better than boring old grey. Grey is drab, boring, lame, and most of all, depressing.
What do you guys think of that.
@Brad
I am a tee shirt and pants kinda guy. Typically khakis, but sometimes jeans too. As for the shirts, I mostly wear plain, solid color tees. Some of them are charcoal grey, a dark grey that is close, but not quite, black, and smoky grey, name is self explanatory.
My bathroom is styled in the color scheme of grey and navy blue.
Point is, some of us actually "like" grey.
So there. 😝
That’s your impression :-)
If you have a dog, cat, bleed, you’re screwed. Whatever you bought it. I hope you enjoy it. White sucks. I’ll never buy it. But that’s my opinion. Yep I’m a jerk :-)
I don't have nor like animals.
But you're completely right. The thing is I cared then but don't really care now what colour they are.
Isn't it white and black that are both really hard to get stains out of or something?
Nah you're not a jerk, i think your comment was funnny.
@Brian have fun with your grey rooms :)
Ooo, an interesting question, if you got vision tomorrow, would you or I care that most of our stuff is grey? My pants and t/shirts are grey too I believe.
I can honestly say I don't know if I would care, I might now i think on it, I think I'd want brighter colours.
I've heard the hole, the sky is grey and clowdy thing, I wonder if it is actuallly grey... I doubt it but i don't know why. Meh, it probably is.
Grey skies, and colorful threads
Hey Brad,
That whole grey sky thing.
Yeah, that's real. Impossible to describe to someone who has never seen before, but trust me, it exists. Black storm clouds also exist.
Thunderstorms for the win.
Yeah, if I could see again, I am sure I would be more... "adventurous" with my clothing choices. For now, however, I will stick to what I know. I'm not here to impress anyone with my style. 😀
SO Brian...
IF Black clowds exist, how do you see them? I mean black is the absense of colour right? I got it! Sighted people are lying to us, it's all fake, down with the sighted people
!
Nah, i'm sure there's a logical explonation, like there's black but it's got edges or something that are a diffirent colour or something...
Brian tell me, what do you know of these black clouds.